3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
08-27-2005, 03:49 AM
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RE: 3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
Just checked out suttonhp.com. My mistake man. Thats pretty badass. Thats friggin cool as hell that they are already offering head work on those things.
Anyone know what the bottom end can handle on one?
Anyone know what the bottom end can handle on one?
08-27-2005, 07:33 PM
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RE: 3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
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no it's definitley a 3v, go to suttonhp.com. it was the fastest 3v with 10.10 @ 133 before. the first 05 in the 9s was Robin Lawrence's which had a pushrod 5.0 motor
no it's definitley a 3v, go to suttonhp.com. it was the fastest 3v with 10.10 @ 133 before. the first 05 in the 9s was Robin Lawrence's which had a pushrod 5.0 motor
08-29-2005, 04:48 PM
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RE: 3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
Like i said before you need a real blower not a KB to go fast.....Are you sure thats not the car with the cobra motor and a YSI it sure looks like it
ORIGINAL: turbostang21
no it's definitley a 3v, go to suttonhp.com. it was the fastest 3v with 10.10 @ 133 before. the first 05 in the 9s was Robin Lawrence's which had a pushrod 5.0 motor
PUSHROD!!! No way! Pushrods are so outdated and SLOW! I can't believe that NHRA hasn't switched to to mod motors! Must be b/c they don't want to go too fast
Now 98,you have to be jokin [8D]
ORIGINAL: turbostang21
no it's definitley a 3v, go to suttonhp.com. it was the fastest 3v with 10.10 @ 133 before. the first 05 in the 9s was Robin Lawrence's which had a pushrod 5.0 motor
PUSHROD!!! No way! Pushrods are so outdated and SLOW! I can't believe that NHRA hasn't switched to to mod motors! Must be b/c they don't want to go too fast
Now 98,you have to be jokin [8D]
08-29-2005, 07:43 PM
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RE: 3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
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Like i said before you need a real blower not a KB to go fast.....Are you sure thats not the car with the cobra motor and a YSI it sure looks like it
ORIGINAL: turbostang21
no it's definitley a 3v, go to suttonhp.com. it was the fastest 3v with 10.10 @ 133 before. the first 05 in the 9s was Robin Lawrence's which had a pushrod 5.0 motor
PUSHROD!!! No way! Pushrods are so outdated and SLOW! I can't believe that NHRA hasn't switched to to mod motors! Must be b/c they don't want to go too fast
Now 98,you have to be jokin [8D]
Like i said before you need a real blower not a KB to go fast.....Are you sure thats not the car with the cobra motor and a YSI it sure looks like it
ORIGINAL: turbostang21
no it's definitley a 3v, go to suttonhp.com. it was the fastest 3v with 10.10 @ 133 before. the first 05 in the 9s was Robin Lawrence's which had a pushrod 5.0 motor
PUSHROD!!! No way! Pushrods are so outdated and SLOW! I can't believe that NHRA hasn't switched to to mod motors! Must be b/c they don't want to go too fast
Now 98,you have to be jokin [8D]
I don't think the NHRA has much choice, as there isn't a OHC motor that I know of that displaces more than what, 3xx cubes???
Like it or not, I don't think anyone sees the pushrod engine making a big comeback in production cars. They are more fuel efficent, on average are more powerful per cubic inch, and they are able to rev to higher RPM with componets that still allow the car to be affordable.
Imagine the horsepower numbers GM could get with a high reving 350 DOHC. Everyone is so crazy over the new LS2, hell ford had a 5.4 making 390 HP back in 2000! (cobra R anyone?)
08-30-2005, 11:09 AM
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RE: 3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
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It is the 3v motor. It has been in several magazines and its what the friggin vid says anyways.
I don't think the NHRA has much choice, as there isn't a OHC motor that I know of that displaces more than what, 3xx cubes???
Like it or not, I don't think anyone sees the pushrod engine making a big comeback in production cars. They are more fuel efficent, on average are more powerful per cubic inch, and they are able to rev to higher RPM with componets that still allow the car to be affordable.
Imagine the horsepower numbers GM could get with a high reving 350 DOHC. Everyone is so crazy over the new LS2, hell ford had a 5.4 making 390 HP back in 2000! (cobra R anyone?)
It is the 3v motor. It has been in several magazines and its what the friggin vid says anyways.
I don't think the NHRA has much choice, as there isn't a OHC motor that I know of that displaces more than what, 3xx cubes???
Like it or not, I don't think anyone sees the pushrod engine making a big comeback in production cars. They are more fuel efficent, on average are more powerful per cubic inch, and they are able to rev to higher RPM with componets that still allow the car to be affordable.
Imagine the horsepower numbers GM could get with a high reving 350 DOHC. Everyone is so crazy over the new LS2, hell ford had a 5.4 making 390 HP back in 2000! (cobra R anyone?)
The R is a specialty built race car. The LS2 is a run of the mill production motor. Much like the LS1 was. There is nothing "highly modifed" about either motors, that's left up to the consumer. Heads/cam LS2's are making 460+rwhp on a decently mild setup. A modified LS2 would be more comparable to the 5.4 that was in the R. As they're both modified, one from the factory, and one by the consumer.
Are there any Mach 1's out there making 400+rwhp on motor? Honestly, I've never seen one online, much less in person. As far as making more power per cubic inch.....wanna see what a heads/cam 5.0 liter LS1 can make?
http://www.lastofthebreed.com/Histor.../302Camaro.htm
Basically, I don't see how an OHC motor is better as a performance motor. The Terminator motor is the only thing even remotely compareable, and that's ONLY b/c it has forged internals from the factory. The only thing I'd like to see GM do is forge the bottom end.
08-30-2005, 04:28 PM
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RE: 3v ALREADY in the nines!!!
The OHC is plenty capable of making the same hp numbers as any pushrod. Research the 427 sohc. The only competition for it was that one engine with the hemispherical heads that Dodge made. What was that one called? OH The HEMI.
Look at the difference in cubes when comparing a Mach 1 to the LSx. Close to 70 cubes. Come on man. The pushrod is tried and true, nothing wrong with that. But compare apples to apples. I guess the run of the mill motors part is true but they are the last gen corvette engines. Ford developed the 4.6 with interchangability in mind. They put it in trucks and other cars. Is that the story w/ the LS? I guess my point is that if Ford sat down and developed a motor specifically for its highest performance platform w/ out the use of FI, I have confidence it would be right on par w/ ANY pushrod engine.
Honestly, Im not trying not to start ****. Id like to exchange ideas respectfully.
Look at the difference in cubes when comparing a Mach 1 to the LSx. Close to 70 cubes. Come on man. The pushrod is tried and true, nothing wrong with that. But compare apples to apples. I guess the run of the mill motors part is true but they are the last gen corvette engines. Ford developed the 4.6 with interchangability in mind. They put it in trucks and other cars. Is that the story w/ the LS? I guess my point is that if Ford sat down and developed a motor specifically for its highest performance platform w/ out the use of FI, I have confidence it would be right on par w/ ANY pushrod engine.
Honestly, Im not trying not to start ****. Id like to exchange ideas respectfully.