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thanks for the good comment's :P as for the sand i try to keep the mustang in the garage as much as i can...i cannot imagine my car in snow (tried to leave driveway one time, almost got stuck in my own driveway LOL, im sure nitto drag radials do not help)but on a worm day like today i cannot help myself. But i am also fortunate enough to have a work truck that i drive. Do the Chicago member's have meets when it is nicer out? that would be sweet.