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I decided to cut open a Fl820s & a Amsoil eao11

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Old 11-12-2009, 08:16 PM   #1
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:17 PM   #2
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It looks as though the Motorcraft filter has more pleats and taller pleats making for more filter surface area.
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It looks as though the Motorcraft filter has more pleats and taller pleats making for more filter surface area.
more is not always better

would you want One pound of gold, or Two pounds of copper?

besides....
the cellulose does not hold more containments
it would need to be a lot bigger.

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Look at the two.. The Amsoil filter has a lot more gunk trapped in it.. That says to me that it's doing the job of stoping small particulate matter through and filtering the oil..

I'm taking it that there is the same miles on each one??
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:40 AM   #5
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to add to shady's 2nd post, the pleats dont look to be the same material. the amsoil is a much thicker pleat where the motorcraft is much more thin.

ive seen wix, ac delco & fram cut open and there were HUGE differences between them.

the fram looked like utter crap too

all were brand new never used
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anti drainback is beefier...very important...and the filter/housing springs don't even compare lol being that ones not even a spring. that's before even mentioning how much better the syn media is over the cellulose.

I feel pretty good with my EaO11 under hood. I never thought the Amsoil Ea filter was worth the price until I read this post http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...1493077&page=1
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I'm sold AmsOil it is!
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I've been using amsoil SSO oil and EaO filters since 10k miles with 10k change intervals (few swaps of castrol syntec/M1 filters between 500-10k miles). The car still feels like it's breaking in at 40k, cold starts don't feel different than warm starts. Sometimes I freewheel the starter because it usually doesn't take more than a blip of the key to get her started.
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Look at the two.. The Amsoil filter has a lot more gunk trapped in it.. That says to me that it's doing the job of stoping small particulate matter through and filtering the oil..

I'm taking it that there is the same miles on each one??
yep , about 5000-6000 miles on each..
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Old 11-17-2009, 04:51 PM   #11
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to add to shady's 2nd post, the pleats dont look to be the same material. the amsoil is a much thicker pleat where the motorcraft is much more thin.

ive seen wix, ac delco & fram cut open and there were HUGE differences between them.

the fram looked like utter crap too

all were brand new never used
1st lesson my dad taught me about changing oil, in his words: "Don't bring home a %#*&^@ Fram filter. But that's what they'll try to sell you. Don't buy the s.o.b."

That was 16 years ago and I still won't buy a Fram and If I have someone else change the oil, that's the first thing I ask - what brand filter are you going to use? Followed by: What oil.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:18 PM   #12
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O.K. Shady's got me started now.. I was telling him in a private post, that my ingrained habit is to baby my motors with frequent oil changes.. 3,000 miles and sometimes less. I never go over!

Not that good of a shade tree mechanic but I've been around Mechanics and Garages all my life in one way or another.. It's been ingrained in me.. If you want to get the life out of your motor.. This is the most important must thing to do...

I'm reading the stuff Shady sent me in regards to Amsoil and finding it real hard to want to break my ingrained habit of frequent oil changes..

So how many here actually live and breath these extended drain schedules that Amsoil is claiming??

I need convincing.. Almost like kicking a drug habit. It's an ingrained emotional thing with me... You must change your oil on a regular frequent schedule..

I'm going to need help kicking the habit!
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Man, that's me too. 3000 miles and if it ever goes over I start waiting on lightning to hit me out of a blue sky. LOL

And that's habit. I actually thought you said 'rabbit' there for a minute. I thought - WOW that's harsh, kickin a bunny. :-P
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So how does everybody feel about Mobil 1 synthetic w/ K&N filter (sometimes Mobil 1 filter)? I know most here are waving the Royal Purple or Amsoil flag, but I just can't bring myself to mail order an oil change, as those products are not readily available at any of the stores around here. I just wanna wake up Saturday morning and run to Autozone and get the stuff I need.
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^^^ thats a great combo, I agree with you about having to mail order your oil.
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So how does everybody feel about Mobil 1 synthetic w/ K&N filter (sometimes Mobil 1 filter)? I know most here are waving the Royal Purple or Amsoil flag, but I just can't bring myself to mail order an oil change, as those products are not readily available at any of the stores around here. I just wanna wake up Saturday morning and run to Autozone and get the stuff I need.
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and all of the local napa and carquest stores carry it, they may not always have the filter , but they can get it...

my next project will be to cut open a k&n oil filter,and a royal purple(if I can find one)
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So how many here actually live and breath these extended drain schedules that Amsoil is claiming??
buddy of mine has a 2001 Ranger and we just had the engine pulled apart a couple weeks ago to fix the timing chain rattle (was a TSB)

in order to do that you gotta pull most of the top end apart. luckily only removing valve covers not the entire head.

hes been using amsoil for the engines entire life and for the last few years has been running the amsoil 25k mile oil.

he changes his oil once a year but checks the level every once in a while just to make sure its good to go.

there was absolutely zero sludge, burnt oil or anything when we popped the valve covers off.

we halfway expected to see some crap from having 100k miles but it looked like a 20k mile engine.
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So how does everybody feel about Mobil 1 synthetic w/ K&N filter (sometimes Mobil 1 filter)? I know most here are waving the Royal Purple or Amsoil flag, but I just can't bring myself to mail order an oil change, as those products are not readily available at any of the stores around here. I just wanna wake up Saturday morning and run to Autozone and get the stuff I need.

this is why keep enough oil & filters to do 1-2 oil changes on the cars in teh garage at all times.

that way theres no need to have to run to the store the day of. i already have them and can just bust it out in the 15-20 minutes it takes and be on my way.
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buddy of mine has a 2001 Ranger and we just had the engine pulled apart a couple weeks ago to fix the timing chain rattle (was a TSB)

in order to do that you gotta pull most of the top end apart. luckily only removing valve covers not the entire head.

hes been using amsoil for the engines entire life and for the last few years has been running the amsoil 25k mile oil.

he changes his oil once a year but checks the level every once in a while just to make sure its good to go.

there was absolutely zero sludge, burnt oil or anything when we popped the valve covers off.

we halfway expected to see some crap from having 100k miles but it looked like a 20k mile engine.
I run the 0w30 about 25000 miles a oil change, in my 2000 v6 mustang
the car has 155,000 miles on it, still runs like it did when it was new,that is the best car I have ever owned.
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Amsoil has a more powerful detergent package compared to Royal Purple, Red Line, Mobil 1, and others of the sort…which is the main reason why it can be run for so long.
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