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Well, I've been trying to decide on what sort've exhaust I want to buy for my '96 GT. I've searched around, and found it posted many times that the only difference is sound. I also heard that the H-pipe doesn't make much noise after 3,000 RPMs. Now... I want something loud, but not repulsively loud. I don't want my car's bark to overrate its bite. So, I have a few questions...
Any significant differences between the two styles? Such as airflow or back pressure differences?
The X-pipes make more of a raspy growl, and the H-pipes make more of a bass-heavy drone... Right or Wrong?
Does the sound of the H-pipes actually die off at 3k+ RPMs? or what?
and finally...
Which one is generally louder?
(PS: Go easy on me please, I'm a newbie. )
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There is almost no difference between the 2 in terms of power.
How each will sound is very dependant on the type of mufflers you have. In general (not totally exclusive) x pipe sound better with a straight through muffler, and a h pipe with a chambered muffler. In general h pipes have a deeper and rougher tone compared to a x pipe.
H pipes tend to make more noise at lower rpm's. While x pipes tend to be a little smoother (again it depends on the mufflers) and have a higher toned scream up high.
In general, h pipes tend to be a little louder from what i've seen and experienced.
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2004 DSG Mustang Gt, BBK long tubes, BBK catted h pipe, SSS Terminator Catback, K&N cai, Steeda UDP's, Accufab 75mm tb/plenum, FRPP aluminum ds, Motive 3.90 gear, Alternative Auto custom tune, Steeda Tri-Ax, DD black bullitts w/315's Nitto 555R's, & 100 shot N20. 269/305 na, 373/528 N20
Take mine for example. I have really loud straight through mufflers. I've tried both x and h pipes, with an without cats. The o/r h was definantly the most obnoxious, loud, and raspy of the bunch. The o/r x was a tad smoother and quieter (not much though) and less raspy.
I finally settled on a catted h (i like the sound of h pipes better in general) and i am satisfied with that.
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2004 DSG Mustang Gt, BBK long tubes, BBK catted h pipe, SSS Terminator Catback, K&N cai, Steeda UDP's, Accufab 75mm tb/plenum, FRPP aluminum ds, Motive 3.90 gear, Alternative Auto custom tune, Steeda Tri-Ax, DD black bullitts w/315's Nitto 555R's, & 100 shot N20. 269/305 na, 373/528 N20
Hmmm... Alrighty then, I have another question to add to the list after reading your post, mrtstang.
What sort've power differences am I looking at in "Catted vs. Non-Catted"? Anything substantial?
I've read that catted exhausts increase the power, but it seems pretty up in the air about how much. What's a pretty fair consensus for how much power a catted exhaust realistically adds?
There isn't much difference at all between hi flow cats and o/r pipes. The only difference you may feel is that the powerband is slightly shifted due to less back pressure with a o/r pipe.
I would personally base your decision on sound alone.
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2004 DSG Mustang Gt, BBK long tubes, BBK catted h pipe, SSS Terminator Catback, K&N cai, Steeda UDP's, Accufab 75mm tb/plenum, FRPP aluminum ds, Motive 3.90 gear, Alternative Auto custom tune, Steeda Tri-Ax, DD black bullitts w/315's Nitto 555R's, & 100 shot N20. 269/305 na, 373/528 N20
Take mine for example. I have really loud straight through mufflers. I've tried both x and h pipes, with an without cats. The o/r h was definantly the most obnoxious, loud, and raspy of the bunch. The o/r x was a tad smoother and quieter (not much though) and less raspy.
I finally settled on a catted h (i like the sound of h pipes better in general) and i am satisfied with that.
im at the same point right now,since i put the h-pipe on with the terminators im not sure i like it when i floor it, it is a little raspy, so im thinking in going with something chambered, but im going to wait til i fix the exhaust leak to see if that helps. Im also going to have someone drive away so i can hear what it sounds like instead of just in the car.
__________________ 02 black gt,vortech sc,3.25 pulley swap,air to air intercooler,anderson powerpipe,3.90 motive gears,aluminum drive shaft,75mm tb,75mm trick flow plenum,38lb injectors,lowering springs,cobra rims front 245/45/17 rear315/30/17,summit racing o/r h-pipe,sss terminator cat-back,CHE LCA'S, Ford racing UCA's. 90mm lightning maf and sctx3 tune
im at the same point right now,since i put the h-pipe on with the terminators im not sure i like it when i floor it, it is a little raspy, so im thinking in going with something chambered, but im going to wait til i fix the exhaust leak to see if that helps. Im also going to have someone drive away so i can hear what it sounds like instead of just in the car.
I wonder how much different yours sounds since you have stock manifolds. Mine (with the o/r h) was just crazy loud and raspy. The o/r x was better (it was a bit smoother and cleaner sounding) but still way too loud and raspy for me as well.
Changing to the o/r x might work for you...it's a thought! If not you'll like a catted pipe with these mufflers. If you do keep the o/r h, it's hard to beat a chambered muffler imo.
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2004 DSG Mustang Gt, BBK long tubes, BBK catted h pipe, SSS Terminator Catback, K&N cai, Steeda UDP's, Accufab 75mm tb/plenum, FRPP aluminum ds, Motive 3.90 gear, Alternative Auto custom tune, Steeda Tri-Ax, DD black bullitts w/315's Nitto 555R's, & 100 shot N20. 269/305 na, 373/528 N20
i just changed it about a week ago, i loved the way the terminators sounded with the stock cats, i didnt think it would be so raspy with the o/r h.It is def alot loader than i expected but it doesnt bother me.So i might have to back to the flows i just hope i can change the mufflers and not have to get another catback, i'll have to measure the off set unless anyone has done this before, use a sss catback with flowmaster muffler.
__________________ 02 black gt,vortech sc,3.25 pulley swap,air to air intercooler,anderson powerpipe,3.90 motive gears,aluminum drive shaft,75mm tb,75mm trick flow plenum,38lb injectors,lowering springs,cobra rims front 245/45/17 rear315/30/17,summit racing o/r h-pipe,sss terminator cat-back,CHE LCA'S, Ford racing UCA's. 90mm lightning maf and sctx3 tune
X sounds racerboyish/Racecarish (Think Infinity G35/G37 or Nissan 350Z/370Z) H pipe sounds more muscle car (throaty)
X pipe actually flows a little better than H, less turbulence. Won't notice it in most applications unless you're FI and WOT. SOPF (seat of pants feel) you won't tell the difference. Only on a dyno.
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X-pipes or H-pipes?
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02 black gt,vortech sc,3.25 pulley swap,air to air intercooler,anderson powerpipe,3.90 motive gears,aluminum drive shaft,75mm tb,75mm trick flow plenum,38lb injectors,lowering springs,cobra rims front 245/45/17 rear315/30/17,summit racing o/r h-pipe,sss terminator cat-back,CHE LCA'S, Ford racing UCA's. 90mm lightning maf and sctx3 tune
