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DOT 4 vs DOT 3 brake fluid
#11
To follow up on what Argonaut said the normal recommendations for brake improvements for those who want to track these cars in the order they are done is;
1) better tires
2) DOT 4 fluid and better pads
3) SS lines
4) Front brake cooling
5) BBK for the front- preferably one without slots or holes drilled in the rotors
Flush the fluid at least once a year and bleed as often as required to keep good fluid at the calipers. I run ATE.
My BBK choice was the GT500 kit as it also includes the SS lines and the price is right. Make sure your rims will clear the calipers
There are a lot of threads in this forum about the subject but I guess most of them are now fairly old and so may not come to the front on a search. Try searching on Motul or ATE.
1) better tires
2) DOT 4 fluid and better pads
3) SS lines
4) Front brake cooling
5) BBK for the front- preferably one without slots or holes drilled in the rotors
Flush the fluid at least once a year and bleed as often as required to keep good fluid at the calipers. I run ATE.
My BBK choice was the GT500 kit as it also includes the SS lines and the price is right. Make sure your rims will clear the calipers
There are a lot of threads in this forum about the subject but I guess most of them are now fairly old and so may not come to the front on a search. Try searching on Motul or ATE.
Last edited by Sleeper_08; 08-03-2010 at 07:12 AM.
#12
As long as we are talkign brake fluid, how much do you need when you swap to DOT4? I think i migh tdo soem brake work this month. SS lines, motul, and HPS pads unless someone has a better recomendation on pads. I need something that will latst for the street and work well with stock rotors. I plan on doing a track day later this month. It;s a driving school actually at texas motor speedway. If the track do goes like my first autocross, it will be a regualr deal for me.
Your OE lines will be plenty good for your first track day.
Flush/change the fluid.
Norm
#13
I can't envision a track day with 20 or 30 minute sessions being anywhere near as gentle on the brakes as what I presume was one minute at a time on a second gear only autocross. You absolutely will need something better than HPS pads. HP+ all around might or might not be OK for your first track day.
Your OE lines will be plenty good for your first track day.
Flush/change the fluid.
Norm
Your OE lines will be plenty good for your first track day.
Flush/change the fluid.
Norm
Thanks for the tip, i was just about to ask what would be the route to go. Sorry for thread jack OP, but this is sort of on topic.
So DOT 4 fluid, keep stock lines, and better pads all around. i was wondering if adding brake cooling would be better to resist fade than the fluid?
#14
Thanks for the tip, i was just about to ask what would be the route to go. Sorry for thread jack OP, but this is sort of on topic.
So DOT 4 fluid, keep stock lines, and better pads all around. i was wondering if adding brake cooling would be better to resist fade than the fluid?
So DOT 4 fluid, keep stock lines, and better pads all around. i was wondering if adding brake cooling would be better to resist fade than the fluid?
#15
Yea - I got my monthly fix on Saturday now I am good to go until my next event, 2 days at Mosport at the end of August.
#16
Ten days so far this year. Used up 3 sets of brake pads, one set of rotors and have gone thru 8 scrub tires. Did anyone mention this hobby is expensive?
#17
5 events for me;
1) one set of Carbotech XP10 fronts after 3 events
2) Carbotech XP8 rears still OK
3) rotors still OK
4) about 1/2 way through the Nitto NT01s
5) A whole lot of gas - it burns up about a litre (1/4 gallon) a minute at Mosport
Does my low consumption of pads, rotors and tires mean I'm not trying hard enough?
1) one set of Carbotech XP10 fronts after 3 events
2) Carbotech XP8 rears still OK
3) rotors still OK
4) about 1/2 way through the Nitto NT01s
5) A whole lot of gas - it burns up about a litre (1/4 gallon) a minute at Mosport
Does my low consumption of pads, rotors and tires mean I'm not trying hard enough?
#18
5 events for me;
1) one set of Carbotech XP10 fronts after 3 events
2) Carbotech XP8 rears still OK
3) rotors still OK
4) about 1/2 way through the Nitto NT01s
5) A whole lot of gas - it burns up about a litre (1/4 gallon) a minute at Mosport
Does my low consumption of pads, rotors and tires mean I'm not trying hard enough?
1) one set of Carbotech XP10 fronts after 3 events
2) Carbotech XP8 rears still OK
3) rotors still OK
4) about 1/2 way through the Nitto NT01s
5) A whole lot of gas - it burns up about a litre (1/4 gallon) a minute at Mosport
Does my low consumption of pads, rotors and tires mean I'm not trying hard enough?
Smoother=Faster.
Cheers.
#19
#20
I just flushed my system with DOT4, took about a quart and a half... Pedal feels very different, I didn't even really notice how spongy it before the new fluid. My car is an 05 with 66k miles, fluid flushes just got added to my regular maintenance checklist (especially with track days in the future).