Celica GTS VS RX-8
09-03-2005, 05:56 PM
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RE: Celica GTS VS RX-8
ORIGINAL: 2000Si
and you can't measure a rotary engine by bore*stroke. You have to measure it by how much it displaces. Which is 1.3 liters, but it gets twice the power per rotation of the rotors. You just helped prove my point. It has two plugs. It fires twice on each rotation. Therefore it theoretically should create just as much power as a 2.6L piston engine or a 2.6L rotory engine with a single combustion in each cycle.
and you can't measure a rotary engine by bore*stroke. You have to measure it by how much it displaces. Which is 1.3 liters, but it gets twice the power per rotation of the rotors. You just helped prove my point. It has two plugs. It fires twice on each rotation. Therefore it theoretically should create just as much power as a 2.6L piston engine or a 2.6L rotory engine with a single combustion in each cycle.
09-03-2005, 06:03 PM
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RE: Celica GTS VS RX-8
ORIGINAL: ByPopularDemand
Ironic huh. this is coming from someone with a saleen that beat an rx-8 by like two feet
and like i said your car should be runnin alot faster than it is
HAHA!!! I said the same thing! LOL
09-04-2005, 01:20 AM
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RE: Celica GTS VS RX-8
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It's a 1.3, civic boy is just wrong and can never admit when he is wrong. Also a Celica GTS will NOT run 14s. Mag time are mid 15s so real world would be low 15s, wrong again 2000. Also, I agree RX8s are not fast, I raped one from a roll before tune and delete plates with my slow auto. The handle really well though and they look pretty cool.
It's a 1.3, civic boy is just wrong and can never admit when he is wrong. Also a Celica GTS will NOT run 14s. Mag time are mid 15s so real world would be low 15s, wrong again 2000. Also, I agree RX8s are not fast, I raped one from a roll before tune and delete plates with my slow auto. The handle really well though and they look pretty cool.
I do recall consulting the Mazda Webpage and saying that the engine is a 1.3L. However, do I have to explain for the SIXTH goddamn time why it can and has been considered as powerful as a 2.6L engine?
Do I? Honestly? Can we not grow a goddamn brain on this board for a change people? After all the times I've explained, flat out owned, and proven some of you completely wrong you still continue to argue with me. I don't get it.
757 you have absolutely NO knowledge on any import, yet you continue to think I'm wrong and you're correct. You would have never even known what kind of engine the GTS has, what the weight, what kind of real world track times it CAN run if it hadn't been for anything I've said in this thread. Nobody goes to you for knowledge on anything, let alone Import knowledge. So, for a change, shut the hell up in threads like this.
09-04-2005, 08:39 PM
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RE: Celica GTS VS RX-8
The SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) defined way of measuring the displacement of a rotary is to measure the difference in volume of the combustion chamber between when it is at its largest and smallest. Since each rotor has three of these chambers and there is one combustion event per rotation of the eccentric shaft, a 1.3 liter rotary would burn 1.3 liters of fuel and air per eccentric shaft rotation. A 2.6 liter reciprocating engine would burn this same amount. This confuses some people and makes them claim that rotary engines have twice the displacement their manufacturers claim they have. There is not right or wrong in this case. Rotary engines are different from reciprocating engines, so of course they need to be treated differently.
see now u can all stop arguin,
see now u can all stop arguin,
09-05-2005, 07:57 PM
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RE: Celica GTS VS RX-8
ORIGINAL: 2000Si
First things first, you stupid ****ing Magazine racer... Magazine times mean jack ****ing **** in the real world. I have personally been to the Muncie dragstrip in Indiana 3 years ago (that being 2002) and I personally watched a Celica GTS run a 14.9. Later on saying he was bone stock. I don't give two flying ****s what your ****** magazines say, even though they do say 15.2 which is only 3 tenths off what he ran. What I've seen in person outweighs what you read from some magazine.
I do recall consulting the Mazda Webpage and saying that the engine is a 1.3L. However, do I have to explain for the SIXTH goddamn time why it can and has been considered as powerful as a 2.6L engine?
Do I? Honestly? Can we not grow a goddamn brain on this board for a change people? After all the times I've explained, flat out owned, and proven some of you completely wrong you still continue to argue with me. I don't get it.
757 you have absolutely NO knowledge on any import, yet you continue to think I'm wrong and you're correct. You would have never even known what kind of engine the GTS has, what the weight, what kind of real world track times it CAN run if it hadn't been for anything I've said in this thread. Nobody goes to you for knowledge on anything, let alone Import knowledge. So, for a change, shut the hell up in threads like this.
ORIGINAL: 757GT
It's a 1.3, civic boy is just wrong and can never admit when he is wrong. Also a Celica GTS will NOT run 14s. Mag time are mid 15s so real world would be low 15s, wrong again 2000. Also, I agree RX8s are not fast, I raped one from a roll before tune and delete plates with my slow auto. The handle really well though and they look pretty cool.
It's a 1.3, civic boy is just wrong and can never admit when he is wrong. Also a Celica GTS will NOT run 14s. Mag time are mid 15s so real world would be low 15s, wrong again 2000. Also, I agree RX8s are not fast, I raped one from a roll before tune and delete plates with my slow auto. The handle really well though and they look pretty cool.
I do recall consulting the Mazda Webpage and saying that the engine is a 1.3L. However, do I have to explain for the SIXTH goddamn time why it can and has been considered as powerful as a 2.6L engine?
Do I? Honestly? Can we not grow a goddamn brain on this board for a change people? After all the times I've explained, flat out owned, and proven some of you completely wrong you still continue to argue with me. I don't get it.
757 you have absolutely NO knowledge on any import, yet you continue to think I'm wrong and you're correct. You would have never even known what kind of engine the GTS has, what the weight, what kind of real world track times it CAN run if it hadn't been for anything I've said in this thread. Nobody goes to you for knowledge on anything, let alone Import knowledge. So, for a change, shut the hell up in threads like this.
same goes for every other car. just cause a mag says it can get a certain time, doesn't mean it can't be faster than that.
