302army187

Sup guys, long time, haha.


Had a few other race's I need to post about, but this happened yesterday.....


Driving to work, a SRT8 challenger comes by (I think 392? IDK much about these) It was a little blacked out, but had fleet vehicle tags, so IDK if it was a rental car or what.

Anyway heavy traffic, but I'm a little rushed to get to work, so I'm moving through it respectfully, the SRT8 is doing the same.

We are side by side for ages, but no where to do anything, and he wasn't really seeming to try anything other then move through the traffic.


Well I reach my exit, and I need to get moving, I notice he is behind me. I take the exit a little faster then normal, and romp second and third once I hit the road, barking third. I notice the SRT 8 which was a bit behind when I took the exit, is moving about the same pace as me, in other words, he got on it too.

Down the road he catches up and we are both running about 15 over. I'm not sure at that point if he was just in a rush too, or chasing me. So I downshift, and take off. He soon followed.


So a light change's, plenty of open road (this is out in the middle of no where basically) I stop for the light, he darts over into the other lane.

No exchange of glances or anything, no revving.... I see him inching forward though. I can tell the light is about to change, so I bring the RPM's up to about 2,000...

Light go's green, I peddle it to a minimal spin launch, a bit bogging it, stomp it, I'm pulling from what I can tell, slam second, and here he comes, pulling steady, and about a half car length or so, I go for third......... and miss.

even though I missed third I don't think it would matter, that thing pulled about a half car in two short gears, he was obviously faster.


for some reason I though the SRT8's here slower then the 2013 5.0's. Looking up the stats, they are 470hp 470trq and run anywhere form a 13.1 to a 12.6 from what I can see from a quick search.


My 2013 has taken down quite a lot, 2 c5 vettes, SRT8 jeep, chargers, other mustangs, S2000's, audis, been getting a lot of action. I was pumped about the c5 vettes, but knew it was probably a fluke. I drive pretty good (when I actually hit the gears) so......


But this srt8 death has got me kinda bummed out...... I've been thinking about some mods, but tell myself the car is fast as hell already...... This might have been a motivating factor for starting mods.....



cliffs:

-race SRT8 challenger from a light
-I get a decent launch, I'm pulling in first
-slam second, start getting pulled
-miss third
-challenger srt8 wins by half a length.



never talked to the guy, no idea if it was modded or stock. All I have is a pypes catback, which is pretty loud, so I didn't hear anything from the challenger.

BairdGT

Many factors can be accounted for that outcome with the SRT8 Challenger

those 13.1 to 12.6 stock times are pretty much Manual vs Automatic
Manuals stock vary in the high 12s to low 13s
Automatics stock vary in the mid 12s to high 12s
(Automatics will almost always have the edge when it comes to racing)

another factor which I doubt you looked for which I don't think anyone really does is how was his tire setup..
- Standard come with Goodyear Eagle RS-A all seasons similar to our Pirelli's
- Staggered which come with Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires

Shifting from 2-3 is kinda the important shift miss that and you can almost expect failure. You could be running mid 12s all day when you hit 3rd miss that gear and you can knock yourself right out of the 12s and into the 13's because of it.

The Hemi is a nice engine but its a top end power producing engine, beating them off the line is pretty easy to do its everything afterwards that counts especially hitting 3rd.

Dodge loves to slap their high output engines into pigs on wheels. The Challenger SRT8 weighs in at 4200lbs w/o driver so they need that 470hp vs our 420hp and weighing in at 3600 w/o driver.

Out of curiosity are you running regular or premium fuel?

ctgreddy

I was under the impression the 392's are a bit faster than a stock 5.0, they've got quite a bit more hp so it's as to be expected even with the weight. But it very well could have been modded. They have tunes available for the 392's now so could have been messed with. Guess you'll never know unless you run into him again lol.

BairdGT

392 according to most write ups put the SRT8 pulling the 1/4 in about 12.6 @ 112mph +/- 0.1
Most also give the '13 GT approximately the same time and speed.

here is video of AM.com pulling a 12.7 @ cecil county bone stock

so in reality it basically comes down to driver vs driver and the fact he missed 3rd would cost him vs the Challenger.

600lbs is quite a bit of weight.. which is why 470hp runs about the same time as our 420hp.

If you think about it.. assuming average driver in the Challenger 180-200lb male that puts them at a weight of 4380-4400lbs for us to equal that kinda weight we would require Driver + 3 other people (assuming 180-200lb avg)

have you ever tried racing with all 4 seats full of 200lb guys? It's ridiculous not to mention slow as sh*t! lol

Also if you look around with just putting a set of drag radials on guy's are pushing stock 5L low 12's some have even cracked into the 11s (think they were on slicks tho)

72MachOne99GT

Maybe it is just folk lore, but I have heard of 392 SRT8's in the 12.1-12.2 range.

BairdGT

slap on a good set of DR's or Slicks and wouldn't surprise me if they cranking out 12.1-12.2 guys are doing similar times with bone stock 5.0s

here is a link to their thread of people posting their timeslips and mods.. the only stocks hitting 12.2-12.3 are the auto's but they also aren't listing
their elevation and such either but that will give you a good estimate on the 392's capability.
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...-sticky-63213/

GT500Steve

The 392 Challengers are decent running cars. The fastest anyone has gotten a stock automatic on street tires is 12.10. The 6spd cars usually run low13s to high 12s on street tires. There aren't a lot of mods out there for the 392s, it has only been in the last year or so that tuning has become available and just recently companies have released blowers and cams for them.

Put a CAI and a good tune on the 5.0, it would probably help even it out. If the challenger was pulling even with you in 2nd gear, chances are in 3rd he would have gone around you.

Stone629

It's a drivers race between the two stock/stock as stated, so either he had a mod or two, or just had the stronger running car that day.

If I had one of these new 5.0s, just knowing what a tune does for them would have me getting it done within the first week of having the car.

bluebeastsrt

I'm going with folklore. There should be a few SRT-8 owners come in to this thread to preach the gospal. When ever there is a thread about a SRT-8 getting beat posted on the camaro forum they show up in droves to tell ya a stocker will run low 12s all day. I usally ask then to show me a video of them doing it. It quites them down a little but then they will dig up one dragtime post and claim victory.

Stone629

I could see a 12.6 glory pass out of one. Low 12s...na