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Old 11-19-2013, 09:16 AM   #1
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What would a WS-6 with a cam, 4.11 gears, slicks and skinnies run in the 1/4 mile? And don't put mileage and/or age into consideration.
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I'd say, as long as what you mentioned are all the mods and good driver, easily mid to low 12's all day. They were some underrated cars back in the day.
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That's about what I thought. My buddy had one back in the day with those exact mods. I saw him recently after a long time and were talking cars. He (jokingly) said my car is slow and his old WS-6 would have killed it easy. I asked what that thing ran back then, as I'd totally forgot. He said it ran low 11s. I thought that didn't sound right at all, so I decided to ask around.
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Don't quote me on that. That's why I said, "easily" mid to low 12's. It's quite possible to dip into the 11's with the tire setup. Some have run stock Ws6's into high 12's.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:51 AM   #5
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Cam-only? mid 10s.

jokes... LS1 guys make some crazy claims.

More realistically I believe they can hit mid 11s. but depends on the other mods. A lot of LS1 guys say, "cam-only" and what they mean is weight reduction, suspension, full exhaust, every other possible thing you can do outside of doing heads or FI. example:


so if your friend doesn't have all the supporting mods along with it and depending on cam more likely somewhere in the lower 12s.

Nice to see the 2011 5.0 mustang finally beating LS1s(stock for stock, mod for mod)... only took ford 13 years

but yeah, cam only cars have hit 450whp... apparently an electric water pump on those cars frees up a lot of power too... 400whp is a bit more normal, just depends on cam and mods.


It's one reason I decided to get rid of my 07 GT... just sad when a mildly modded 15 year old camaro/trans-am can beat your supercharged mustang.. I saw a lot of tail lights from those guys.

Once they do heads they can see 10s.
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A lot of LS1 guys say, "cam-only" and what they mean is weight reduction, suspension, full exhaust, every other possible thing you can do outside of doing heads or FI.
The mods I listed were what he had. I remember the car (he used to let me drive it alot, but I never took it to the track) and the mods. It really just had the cam, gears, and tires like I posted. I just couldn't remember what it ran back then, but I thought low 11s didn't sound right.
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Yep, in that case he is likely a full second off.. quite a difference there
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I'm guessing they can go low 11s with those mods.. like 11.3. But if the motor has over 100k miles then I'd say 11.32.
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did it have headers too? If it had longtubes, a good cam, those gears, a really good tune, I'm assuming a 6sp and a really good drivers mod, and tires good enough to where he could launch it really well, then a low 11 isn't out of the question. It'd be rare with those mods, but could be believable.

Look at stones car for example. mild cam, unported 243's, bolt ons, mild stall, and 11.6's on a 555r. I'm sure he could click off some bottom bottom 11's if he'd put a mans cam in it with a better tire and take a little weight off it.
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It had the stock exhaust. It was a 6-speed manual, and my buddy is a really good driver. Back in the day when he had it, it was only a few years old and had about 30k miles on it.
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Really depends on the cam and how good the tune is, but if its something like a mid-sized cam like a 224/224 .58 114lsa whatever, then with the slicks and skinnies he could definitely be well into the 11s. My mods/ET are in my sig. Like Greddy said, if I had some slicks/skinnies and could actually launch above idle, then I'd be able to run low 11s no problem. I'm basically leaving off idle and rolling into it to get what I got. Anyway, yea your buddy could pull it off if everything was set-up and tuned right.
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I'm guessing they can go low 11s with those mods.. like 11.3. But if the motor has over 100k miles then I'd say 11.32.
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Really depends on the cam and how good the tune is, but if its something like a mid-sized cam like a 224/224 .58 114lsa whatever, then with the slicks and skinnies he could definitely be well into the 11s. My mods/ET are in my sig. Like Greddy said, if I had some slicks/skinnies and could actually launch above idle, then I'd be able to run low 11s no problem. I'm basically leaving off idle and rolling into it to get what I got. Anyway, yea your buddy could pull it off if everything was set-up and tuned right.
This... not knowing the cam here it makes it almost pointless to guess. With my weak *** cam though I am shooting for low 12s on street tires (guessing around 12.3 @ 115 right now)... when the car only had the cam and a lid (stock tune) I went 12.8 @ 110 on a 2.0 60ft (156K on the block and race weight was 3600lbs). The 6K redline held me back a lot and with the current mods and a 6800 limiter I expect it to do much better.

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The weight of the car comes into play as well as conditions/track... I'm in the 3370 range with a full tank of gas now (add me and race weight is a fat 3530lbs) and Cordova is pretty crazy when the weather cooperates. (A friend went 12.7 @ 110 in a bone stock 5th Gen SS last fall). I could get this setup into the high 11s with DRs and the rest of the bolt ons pretty easy. If someone knows what they are doing a donkey dick cam and sticky tires will have no issue pulling mid 11s or better. Weight reduction and 10s are possible... I almost don't want to bring it up but...

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Like Greddy said, if I had some slicks/skinnies and could actually launch above idle, then I'd be able to run low 11s no problem.
He said he would launch it at 6k. He said more than once he got the front tires off the ground.
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He said he would launch it at 6k. He said more than once he got the front tires off the ground.
I guess it should be able to lift a tire assuming he is dumb enough to launch at 6k and his rear stayed in one piece. Not a smart move, but possible. Guy sounds like a bit of a bull ****ter though.
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Yep. On a stock 10 bolt? Not a chance it would live more than once. Lol
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