5.0 swap...
06-06-2007, 07:53 PM
#12
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RE: 5.0 swap...
Whatever the 3.8, IMO with teh exception of the T-bird S/C are all garbage. Sure theyre great for MINIVANS, but come on in a mustang. Thats a damn womans car. No offense to the ladies. 
I apologize for calling all of you idiots. Only some of you are [8D].
As for whats the point of putting a 5.0 in, hmm perhaps it could be that there is more parts available for a 302 than any other Ford engine produced. Period. Easy and inexpensive to build, parts are readily available at most parts stores. I dont see any negatives about putting a 302 in a mustang. Only positives, well except gas milage, but hell the 3.8 isnt that much better.
-P.
I apologize for calling all of you idiots. Only some of you are [8D].
As for whats the point of putting a 5.0 in, hmm perhaps it could be that there is more parts available for a 302 than any other Ford engine produced. Period. Easy and inexpensive to build, parts are readily available at most parts stores. I dont see any negatives about putting a 302 in a mustang. Only positives, well except gas milage, but hell the 3.8 isnt that much better.
-P.
06-06-2007, 07:59 PM
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RE: 5.0 swap...
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Whatever the 3.8, IMO with teh exception of the T-bird S/C are all garbage. Sure theyre great for MINIVANS, but come on in a mustang. Thats a damn womans car. No offense to the ladies.
I apologize for calling all of you idiots. Only some of you are [8D].
As for whats the point of putting a 5.0 in, hmm perhaps it could be that there is more parts available for a 302 than any other Ford engine produced. Period. Easy and inexpensive to build, parts are readily available at most parts stores. I dont see any negatives about putting a 302 in a mustang. Only positives, well except gas milage, but hell the 3.8 isnt that much better.
-P.
Whatever the 3.8, IMO with teh exception of the T-bird S/C are all garbage. Sure theyre great for MINIVANS, but come on in a mustang. Thats a damn womans car. No offense to the ladies.
I apologize for calling all of you idiots. Only some of you are [8D].
As for whats the point of putting a 5.0 in, hmm perhaps it could be that there is more parts available for a 302 than any other Ford engine produced. Period. Easy and inexpensive to build, parts are readily available at most parts stores. I dont see any negatives about putting a 302 in a mustang. Only positives, well except gas milage, but hell the 3.8 isnt that much better.
-P.
06-06-2007, 08:02 PM
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RE: 5.0 swap...
ORIGINAL: flash20
what about the 3.8 grand national?
ORIGINAL: P Zero
Whatever the 3.8, IMO with teh exception of the T-bird S/C are all garbage. Sure theyre great for MINIVANS, but come on in a mustang. Thats a damn womans car. No offense to the ladies.
I apologize for calling all of you idiots. Only some of you are [8D].
As for whats the point of putting a 5.0 in, hmm perhaps it could be that there is more parts available for a 302 than any other Ford engine produced. Period. Easy and inexpensive to build, parts are readily available at most parts stores. I dont see any negatives about putting a 302 in a mustang. Only positives, well except gas milage, but hell the 3.8 isnt that much better.
-P.
Whatever the 3.8, IMO with teh exception of the T-bird S/C are all garbage. Sure theyre great for MINIVANS, but come on in a mustang. Thats a damn womans car. No offense to the ladies.
I apologize for calling all of you idiots. Only some of you are [8D].
As for whats the point of putting a 5.0 in, hmm perhaps it could be that there is more parts available for a 302 than any other Ford engine produced. Period. Easy and inexpensive to build, parts are readily available at most parts stores. I dont see any negatives about putting a 302 in a mustang. Only positives, well except gas milage, but hell the 3.8 isnt that much better.
-P.
Chevy is a whole different ball game. Their 3.8 is a SBC -2 cylinders literally, they chopped 2 off. THeirs on the other hand is fairly powerful and rev's quickly, gobs of torque, and most of all reliable.
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06-06-2007, 08:02 PM
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RE: 5.0 swap...
Here we go again. When will the V8 guys stop dragging their knuckles on the ground and walk upright?
For the money spent on putting in a build 5.0L, you can EASILY get the same amount of power out of a V6 and still be ahead at the end when it comes to time/money.
With a good exhaust and intake, the split port 3.8L makes the SAME hp/tq numbers as the 5.0L powered fox bodies. If you do heads/cam/intakes.... compare both with the same mods... Oh no...guess what, they put out the same numbers till. Not to mention you didn't have to swap in a motor, switch back to OBD 1, add a fuel system, put in a K member and all the other junk related to putting the push rod 5.0L in a new edge SN95 body with a V6.
End of story.
PS: The 5.0L as well as the 351 and 460were found in Ford vans as well. Ouch.
For the money spent on putting in a build 5.0L, you can EASILY get the same amount of power out of a V6 and still be ahead at the end when it comes to time/money.
With a good exhaust and intake, the split port 3.8L makes the SAME hp/tq numbers as the 5.0L powered fox bodies. If you do heads/cam/intakes.... compare both with the same mods... Oh no...guess what, they put out the same numbers till. Not to mention you didn't have to swap in a motor, switch back to OBD 1, add a fuel system, put in a K member and all the other junk related to putting the push rod 5.0L in a new edge SN95 body with a V6.
End of story.
PS: The 5.0L as well as the 351 and 460were found in Ford vans as well. Ouch.
06-06-2007, 08:16 PM
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RE: 5.0 swap...
Built '85 GT. Using as many factory available parts as I could, granted some have a lot of machine work. My cars is faster than most but not as fast as some and thats with a 3.27 gear.
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06-06-2007, 08:33 PM
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RE: 5.0 swap...
Im a certified mechanic and Ive worked on cars/trucks for a long time. IMO, the Ford 3.8 is a boat anchor. Not worth the metal its made out of. Ive torn down more engines than most people on this forum. Look, I dont mean to hurt your feelings about the V-6, I like v-6's except the ford 3.8L. You must understand Im about efficiency, and for something with that much displacement, naturally aspirated, its gutless, relatively speaking. Hell, you can get a 2.0L 4cyl with more HP and torque than that thing, which in my mind is pathetic.
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