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Old 11-04-2005, 05:48 PM
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My friend and i were discussin which wld be better as a racing car or "show" car. THought i'd ask u intelligent ppl out there. Thanx
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Old 11-04-2005, 05:56 PM
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The Mitsu's are harder to mod than the Cobra, but then again this is a Mustang Forum so I don't know a ton about the Mitsu. From a racing standpoint Mitsu has better handling because of AWD but that also sucks for repairs. In a straight line, it's a toss up but it looks like the Cobra wins all the time if you put both S/C Cobra against any of the VR-4s. Add a few mods to both and I'm sure it would be hella fun!

1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 13.8
1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.8 14.3
1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 14.0
1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.7 14.2
1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.4 13.5
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 4.8 13.6

1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9

For show..really depends on what your preference is. I always thought of the Mitsu as a girl car. The Mustang has that muscle car appeal.
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:06 PM
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thanks for ur input. but what bout the 97' VR4 that is the lightest of all the years. with a weight reduction kits u think it wld be better than a cobra?
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compared to which year? The 03/04 Cobras are pretty quick. Most cars that have "weight reduction kits" have gone the cheap route and gutted the car for speed so that kills the show aspect of it. You would have to spend some serious money on either car to do it 'right' and still have a great show car.

So to answer your question, you could make the VR4 lighter and it could be as fast/faster but it would be cheaper to put money in the motor and keep the stock weight if you're looking for show and go.

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well, i know the 91s can get into the mid 13s easily with a $200 boost controller. i don't see why the lighter 97 couldn't get into the 12s with that.

i'm basing that on my friend's old 91 stealth rt tt, which is the same car, but actually a little heavier.
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The Mitsu's are harder to mod than the Cobra, but then again this is a Mustang Forum so I don't know a ton about the Mitsu. From a racing standpoint Mitsu has better handling because of AWD but that also sucks for repairs. In a straight line, it's a toss up but it looks like the Cobra wins all the time if you put both S/C Cobra against any of the VR-4s. Add a few mods to both and I'm sure it would be hella fun!

1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 13.8
1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.8 14.3
1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 14.0
1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.7 14.2
1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.4 13.5
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 4.8 13.6

1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9

For show..really depends on what your preference is. I always thought of the Mitsu as a girl car. The Mustang has that muscle car appeal.
Perhaps eclipses and regular lancers... but a 3kGT VR4???

Both of your choices in cars are absolute tanks. Heavy as ****.

Depends, do you want to do RWD burnouts, or AWD power slides?
 
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The Mitsu's are harder to mod than the Cobra, but then again this is a Mustang Forum so I don't know a ton about the Mitsu. From a racing standpoint Mitsu has better handling because of AWD but that also sucks for repairs. In a straight line, it's a toss up but it looks like the Cobra wins all the time if you put both S/C Cobra against any of the VR-4s. Add a few mods to both and I'm sure it would be hella fun!

1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 13.8
1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.8 14.3
1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.3 14.0
1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.7 14.2
1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.4 13.5
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 4.8 13.6

1996 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.4 14.0
1998 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 14.0
1999 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 5.4 13.9
2001 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.8 13.5
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9

For show..really depends on what your preference is. I always thought of the Mitsu as a girl car. The Mustang has that muscle car appeal.
Perhaps eclipses and regular lancers... but a 3kGT VR4???

Both of your choices in cars are absolute tanks. Heavy as ****.

Depends, do you want to do RWD burnouts, or AWD power slides?
Si the looks department is an opinion. nothing more or less.
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I wasn't talking about the looks department, but a 3kGT really doesn't look "cute" or "girlish" at all.

 
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well neither does a V6 Mustang but it doesn't keep the V8's from always bringing their ***** pump with them....

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I wasn't talking about the looks department, but a 3kGT really doesn't look "cute" or "girlish" at all.

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that's not my bag
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