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Old 04-02-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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hey guys I know what your gonna say... but I did my research on here and can't get a clear answer because everyone is argueing with eachother. Gas prices are insane here in D.C. I need simple mods that will increase my mpg and maybe increase my hp. So far I hear doing the exhaust and intake will increase mpg and hp. I need specific details on which to get, etc. Most of us don't know what to do. And by simple mods, I mean seeing a goodbreak even point with gas savings and cost for mod.

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Old 04-02-2008, 04:59 PM   #2
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When I added my FRPP Exhaust kit (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=9910) and drove home with it I got around 28 MPG (from 21~22) on 89 Octane (around 30ish miles on highway and city including 5 stop signs). Of course, naturally it declined but as the tank get empty, it slowly rises towards 28 again (considering the weight of the gasoline on a full tank). Which is another factor in it. Don't buy a full tank of gas because you are carrying extra weight with you that you don't need. Back on topic though, I average about 24~+ MPG not including the increase as it gets closer to empty. Although, the FRPP V6 Kit maybe a little pricer than others, but it seems to sound the best in my opinion (if your looking for sound and looks as a bonus ).

Another thing would be a CAI/Tune. VMPTuning.com even has a MPG Tune that may be of interest to you. I haven't gotten mine yet, but will in the next future along with 2 performance tunes to fill the other spots on the tuner.

Thats all I can think of right now! Hope this helped a little.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:22 PM   #3
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Some simple suggestions that can be had cheap and are normal maintenance type items:
[ul][*]keep your tires fully inflated to their max spec psi.[*]Change your engine, trans & rear lubes to full synthetic.[*]Add a GT take off muffler and a free flow air filter. If a CAI isn't in the budget try a GT airbox cover for added flow.
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Personally I wasn't that impressed with my mileage tune this winter. Could be that the snows and winter gas offset the imrovement but I was getting no better then my perf tunes.
I have only one tank down with my new FRPP duals but have seen an improvement of 2 mpg highway. I still had the snows on but did install the 87 perf tune. Plus I have been leaving earlier to work so I don't need to speed. I'll have 1 more tank burned before I take off the snows so I'll have a better idea if the exhaust has helped then.


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Old 04-02-2008, 06:07 PM   #4
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Hey Neal, if you really want to improve your gas mileage, sell the car. If not that extreme, install a set of 4.10 gears and T-Lok, always making sure to leave at least a 30 foot set of dual tire tracks when the light turns green. If not this, the mods the guys have mentioned work well too. By the way, if that's your f***ed up car in the photo, I definitely wood suggest getting rid of it. From the way it looks, it'll get the best gas mileage on the website cause it'll never move. Take care, Jack.

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Old 04-03-2008, 08:54 AM   #5
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What is CAI, in order to tune, do I need CAI first? What is the cost of this? I hear perf 87 bama tune increases mpg? Is this true? What about cold air intake, does this increase mpg?
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Old 04-03-2008, 09:26 AM   #6
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A CAI is a cold air intake. Most will require tunes, although there are a couple that don't. Cost varies. Most places will sell a CAI and tuner package for about $500+ again depending on the tuner and CAI. Also keep in mind that some tunes require higher octane gas. I think the mpg gains are minimal but I suppose theycan add up with mods. Most people say they lose mpgs becausethey're more likely to punch the gas a little more to fully appreciate their cars' new performance....I'm a relatively new Mustang owner and the only performance mod I've done is the single GT takeoff exhaust. The first tank of gas, I did notice a small increase of +1-2 mpgs. The next time I went back to what I was before becuase I found myself revving the engine a lot more just to hear the sound....So mpgs will just depend on how you drive as other have noted...
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If your car has more than 15K miles, then I recommend that you replace your fuel filter. Gas these days is cruddy, and I replace mine every 15K. At 30K miles now, both times the old filter was plugged up & difficult to blow through. I would think that affects MPG (I know it can affect HP - just ask Boss244).
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Hey Jack, I see your giving more quality info. Take care, Doug

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imo ide326 and jwilhelm are both trolls
ide326: who would make a sig like that with the words impregnater? not to metion posts like this
don't get me started on jwilhelm...1005hp my ***
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imo ide326 and jwilhelm are both trolls
ide326: who would make a sig like that with the words impregnater? not to metion posts like this
don't get me started on jwilhelm...1005hp my ***

tdaddy, ide 326 didnt' do that. His signature is im pre gan ter and not impregnator like you assume. It must be some new fangled word used by kids.

As for increasing mileage, and assuming you have a running car, proper inflation of the tires, no jackrabbit starts, a free flowing exhaust and I believe on sixers just an axle back does that.

Oh, also anticipate red lights and take your foot off the gas sooner and roll to the lights as opposed to hard braking. You might see an extra 1-2mpg and keep it between 55-65 on the highway too
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imo ide326 and jwilhelm are both trolls
ide326: who would make a sig like that with the words impregnater? not to metion posts like this
don't get me started on jwilhelm...1005hp my ***
Thanks for the link - that post is gone. As a n00b, ide326 is being watched as a possible troll. jwilhelm does not meet the definition of a troll. We are all of a diverse background, and take on our own persona when online. We are not all gonna get along with each other 100% of the time, but as long as the rules are obeyed, then things will be fine.

Can we bring this thread back to the original topic?
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:06 PM   #12
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awwww why do you gotta take all the funoutta here hopup?

as far as gas mileage goes...
stock i was getting around 17mpg in tampa city driving.. (kinda like DC)
highway was about 20ish

i put a CAI without a tune and put on dual exhaust -
now i'm getting 19-20 city and 25-26 highway

and that info about inflating ur tires is risky. you should inflate the tires to what the CAR recommends. not what the max PSI of the tire is. the info is on the drivers side door jam. if you inflate ur tires to say 60 psi your car will handle differently and your whole ride will change and wear abnormally.
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Wow kdrshocker, your ride is lookin nice... What percantage tint is that??
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Pretend like there is a fresh egg under your gas pedal
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and that info about inflating ur tires is risky. you should inflate the tires to what the CAR recommends. not what the max PSI of the tire is. the info is on the drivers side door jam. if you inflate ur tires to say 60 psi your car will handle differently and your whole ride will change and wear abnormally.
Well I've never been called dumber than a sticker before! So exactly how does that sticker know what tire is installed and what its specs are anyway?? The sticker is just based on the recomended stock spec tires, which in reality is going to be the same or close to what ever tire is installed (short of a race type tire, or the space saver). And you are correct the tire pressure will affect the feel & handeling of the car. higher pressure = harsher ride, lower pressure = more comfortable ride. 60 psi = a chinese pressure guage + no common sense
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and that info about inflating ur tires is risky. you should inflate the tires to what the CAR recommends. not what the max PSI of the tire is. the info is on the drivers side door jam. if you inflate ur tires to say 60 psi your car will handle differently and your whole ride will change and wear abnormally.

Well I've never been called dumber than a sticker before! So exactly how does that sticker know what tire is installed and what its specs are anyway?? The sticker is just based on the recomended stock spec tires, which in reality is going to be the same or close to what ever tire is installed (short of a race type tire, or the space saver). And you are correct the tire pressure will affect the feel & handeling of the car. higher pressure = harsher ride, lower pressure = more comfortable ride. 60 psi = a chinese pressure guage + no common sense
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feed that dog of yours a raw egg each morning and youll put years on its life. + more energy.
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I hope that's not your car in your sig... and if it is then you should think about taking the bus and not worrying about gas mileage...
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ide326 - tint is 20% all the way around. and thanks for thecomment. - about the tire issue; i think the zeros that came stock on the car say max PSI of 55, i think... too lazy to go out to the car and check. the car says 35 or 32... yet again, lazy
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The Bottom Line A few slight modifications can make a huge difference.


Have a vehicle that just doesn't have enough oomph or gets poor fuel economy, but you don't want to strap up a 100 shot of NOS to your Ford Taurus or trade in that gas hog for a Geo Metro? The following are some relatively cheap and simple modifications for the driver who wants a quicker vehicle, better fuel economy, and an automobile that will operate with less fuss.

Air Filters:

The simplest modification that usually will help with acceleration is ditching your stock air filter and going with a high flow air filter. Almost any car will benefit from this type of air filter, such as a filter from the K&N Company. This is also probably the cheapest modification you can do to your car. Many high flow air filters claim to add up to 20 more horses. I doubt most cars will see an increase of 20 horsepower when just adding a high flow air filter, though using a product such as K&N will most likely improve throttle response. Fuel economy and smoothness of your vehicle's engine should also be improved versus using your run of the mill paper or foam filter. Most high flow air filters should run between 30 and 60 dollars. One should note that using any high performance filter in your vehicle will not void your vehicle's warranty according to law.

Cold Air Intake:

Installing a cold air intake is also a very simple and cheap (in many cases) modification that is useful on most vehicles and can range anywhere from $50-$350. A cold air intake system helps cool the air to your combustion chamber, resulting in more power and in some cases better fuel economy. I use an Iceman cold air intake and it works wonderfully adding both power and increased fuel numbers.

Performance Exhaust :

Poor exhaust systems are a big problem many autos are plagued with. This can result in stalling, poor acceleration, poor fuel economy, etc. Many emission strict cars, especially cars from the late '70s and '80s have exhaust systems that substantially restrict air flow, therefore decreasing horsepower and in many cases causing unnecessary engine wear do to severe engine back pressure. Switching to a high performance exhaust, including a free flowing catalytic converter is not just a good idea if you have a sports car, but is also a good idea if you want a smoother ride, quicker throttle response, and better fuel economy; no matter what type of vehicle you drive. All exhaust systems are different (such as their sound effects), so make sure you have one installed that suits your needs. Replacing the catalytic converter and muffler should not cost over $400 in most cases (I paid a total of 230 dollars for both parts and installation for my DC Sports exhaust system.

Upgraded Fuel Injection

Many vehicles will also benefit in acceleration, fuel economy, and better derivability if the fuel injection system is upgraded. I have upgraded to a Bosch fuel injection system and have noticed a substantial increase in fuel economy (an increase in 2 mpg). I have also noticed a major increase in acceleration, probably the most effective aftermarket modification I have had performed on my engine. Adding an aftermarket fuel injection system may void your manufacturer's warranty, so make sure you check with your warranty regulations before you perform/have someone perform this procedure.



Timing

Advancing your ignition timing beyond the manufacturer's specs is a modification I do not recommend, however many people I have talked to claim that advancing their timing has increased performance dramatically. I add this engine modification to my write-up because of the rave reviews this simple procedure has received, especially among Ford Taurus owners. Make sure you check with a professional auto tech before doing this. This procedure usually takes about 5 minutes, depending of course on your engine. If you do this to your engine, there is a chance your engine will require a higher grade of gasoline.

Performance Cams:

Performance cams are a little bit harder to install than most of the items I have listed, however they can add a substantial amount of horsepower without sacrificing fuel economy. When I had my Dodge Neon, I had an after market cam put in and it gave me more power than all of the other mods combined. A good cam also allows your other modifications to work better. If you are not sure about what cam you can go with, talk to your dealer.

Performance Tires

Aside from engine modifications, the tires you use also effect the way your car behaves. Tall tires will most likely give you a smoother ride versus going with a low profile tire. However, if you want better grip, better composure on twisty roads, going with a relatively low profile wide performance tire will give you a more sporting driving experience (this of course is subject to the type of vehicle you own). I use P195/55R/15s on my Storm and have experienced a noticeable improvement in the handling department versus my stock tires (P185/65R/14s). When going with a very low profile tire, such as a 35-45 series tire, you are most likely going to feel much more of the pavement, so be prepared to sacrifice some comfort if you are going to go the very low profile route. Cost is also an issue here. A low profile performance tire is usually going to cost a good 40%-50% more than your standard tire.

Simple procedures you can do to make your can run better:

Switch to a high quality synthetic oil ,i.e. Mobil 1 and a high quality oil filter.

Use a high quality fuel injector cleaner every month.

Use high quality spark plugs.

Buy gas which contains anti carbon build-up agents.


Final Thoughts:

There are a million and one simple modifications and procedures you can do to your vehicle to improve its overall performance; whether it be increasing horsepower, increasing fuel economy, or simply giving your car an attitude adjustment. There are also a million and one major modifications you can do to your car to increase power dramatically, i.e. using a turbocharger, so check out some other reviews in this category. I recommend most of the modifications listed above for those looking for better fuel economy (I have increased my fuel economy by 30%), a modest increase in power, and an overall smoother ride.

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