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tesla 06-17-2009 09:42 AM

20" rims
 
i have o7 gt with 18" rims now... thinking about getting 20's will all tires for this have low profile ? just curious about potholes etc around my area which are still bad.. if this would be a good idea to get 20's or not

war machine 115 06-17-2009 11:22 AM

I have 20's but bought taller tires than the "recommended" size. Sidewall isn't that much less than what I had on my stock 17's. Wheels are 20x9 with 245/40 and 20x10 with 295/35 Nitto Invo tires.

Here's how they look on the car:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...IMG_0002-2.jpg

Here's a shot of the front wheel:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...IMG_0003-1.jpg

Starfire 06-17-2009 11:58 AM

I have 20's with 255/35/20's all around, They're Goodyear GTs, and feel no ride difference from my 18" stockers.

Nuke 06-17-2009 03:08 PM

Personally, I don't like the look of the 20's with the low profile tires. Plus, I've heard more negatives than positives regarding performance and handling.

tim.route 06-17-2009 04:08 PM

20" wheels = less traction. How can you keep up with the ls1, ls2, etc with heavy ass wheels that get no traction?

tesla 06-18-2009 04:18 PM

what tires would be good to get on 18x9.5 cs69 shelby rims instead of the 20" cs69 rims

Starfire 06-18-2009 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by tim.route (Post 6287015)
20" wheels = less traction. How can you keep up with the ls1, ls2, etc with heavy ass wheels that get no traction?

EH? My 20's have a lot more traction then the stockers, they also increased handling a lot!

Starfire 06-18-2009 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by war machine 115 (Post 6286370)
I have 20's but bought taller tires than the "recommended" size. Sidewall isn't that much less than what I had on my stock 17's. Wheels are 20x9 with 245/40 and 20x10 with 295/35 Nitto Invo tires.

Here's how they look on the car:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...IMG_0002-2.jpg

Here's a shot of the front wheel:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...IMG_0003-1.jpg

Those wheels look great on your car, also is that the new Techno hood?

millpond 06-18-2009 08:07 PM

I have 20" Foose rims with Nitto 555 tires. 255/35 front and 275/35 rear. Great handling combo!
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/484...6160900725.jpg

GM EATER 06-18-2009 10:35 PM

Hood
 
The Dark Horse / Speedstar Saleen wheels look great! Saleen used the 20" wheels with great success I guess everyone has different feel for the road. My S-281 handles like it's on rails. What hood are you using and how much did it cost? Looks great! The GT brakes get lost though, in those rims. Time for a big brake kit to stop all that reciprocating mass!

all2qwik 06-18-2009 10:53 PM

my 06 handles great and looks great on 20's

mygt500 06-19-2009 06:24 AM

Here are my low profile 20's and yes you feel the potholes more and have to slow down greatly for railroad tracks and speedbumps etc......I have 30 series all around and like War Machine 115 I am getting taller tires in the future when the BFGoodrichs are toast. I love the handling and stick to the 285/30/20's in back and the wide 265's up front but the tires in front are NOT even 27 inches tall:icon_doh:.....you live and learn but they do IMO look great and I have NO drop (yet):icon_wink:

see the small side wall in front (I have had no issues but am always careful and know the areas that I drive)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...m/DSC_0104.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...m/DSC_0107.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...m/DSC_0109.jpg

GM EATER 06-19-2009 08:26 AM

another couple of sharp cars with 20's !!

Poco 06-19-2009 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by GM EATER (Post 6290542)
The Dark Horse / Speedstar Saleen wheels look great! Saleen used the 20" wheels with great success I guess everyone has different feel for the road. My S-281 handles like it's on rails. What hood are you using and how much did it cost? Looks great! The GT brakes get lost though, in those rims. Time for a big brake kit to stop all that reciprocating mass!

Reciprocating mass means moving parts like the engine...crank shaft,connecting rods and cams.Rotational mass is what your talking about..flywheels,wheels and tires.I got an explanation from my engineer daughter.

tim.route 06-19-2009 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Starfire (Post 6290076)
EH? My 20's have a lot more traction then the stockers, they also increased handling a lot!

Put the same height and width tires on a 16" or 17" wheel, 20" would be heavier, rougher, and less traction

Starfire 06-19-2009 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by tim.route (Post 6291710)
Put the same height and width tires on a 16" or 17" wheel, 20" would be heavier, rougher, and less traction

If you put the same height (35) and same width (255) your ride would be the same since the sidewall is the same, also if you have the same width your traction would be the same, plus you'd have way to thin of a tire for a mustang on that size rim, it would look silly and your speedo would be way off. Granted some 20's are heaver but the stock wheels are no light weights either.

If you wanted to get real technical since the radius is smaller the rate at which the circumference of the wheel would vector away from the tangent would be higher which would in turn of course be translated to the tire and due to the vector rate of a small wheel your contact patch would be ever so slightly smaller causing a reduction in traction, unless you ran a lower PSI to compensate for that, it's nothing that will really be noticed in the real world though(at least I don't imagine so) and that is WAY to much math for friday!

CutterWolf 06-19-2009 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Starfire (Post 6291738)
If you put the same height (35) and same width (255) your ride would be the same since the sidewall is the same, also if you have the same width your traction would be the same, plus you'd have way to thin of a tire for a mustang on that size rim, it would look silly and your speedo would be way off. Granted some 20's are heaver but the stock wheels are no light weights either.

If you wanted to get real technical since the radius is smaller the rate at which the circumference of the wheel would vector away from the tangent would be higher which would in turn of course be translated to the tire and due to the vector rate of a small wheel your contact patch would be ever so slightly smaller causing a reduction in traction, unless you ran a lower PSI to compensate for that, it's nothing that will really be noticed in the real world though(at least I don't imagine so) and that is WAY to much math for friday!


Ouch, my brain hurts now. 50 lash's with a wet noodle for you for all that real world math on a Friday......:)

GM EATER 06-19-2009 01:15 PM

I'll go with your daughter rotational mass works! 20's Rock!

Starfire 06-19-2009 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by CutterWolf (Post 6291819)
Ouch, my brain hurts now. 50 lash's with a wet noodle for you for all that real world math on a Friday......:)

LOL I know, that was about the extent of my brain power for the day :)

Just seems there has been a lot of 20's are no good threads around lately. My switch from 18" Stock polished bullets to my 20" Konig Beyonds (Incidentally I'm the car of the month on there web site. Woot!!) I gained a ton of handing, I'm sure it was wheels AND tires, and I don't feel I lost any power, but I did gain traction with my wider tires which sometimes feels like a power loss since I don't spin as easy.

tim.route 06-19-2009 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Starfire (Post 6291738)
If you put the same height (35) and same width (255) your ride would be the same since the sidewall is the same, also if you have the same width your traction would be the same, plus you'd have way to thin of a tire for a mustang on that size rim, it would look silly and your speedo would be way off. Granted some 20's are heaver but the stock wheels are no light weights either.

If you wanted to get real technical since the radius is smaller the rate at which the circumference of the wheel would vector away from the tangent would be higher which would in turn of course be translated to the tire and due to the vector rate of a small wheel your contact patch would be ever so slightly smaller causing a reduction in traction, unless you ran a lower PSI to compensate for that, it's nothing that will really be noticed in the real world though(at least I don't imagine so) and that is WAY to much math for friday!

Are you an idiot? I meant that the tires were the SAME width and height. Never said anything about aspect ratios and such. I mean measure the tire you put on your 20" with a tape measure and then find a 16" or 17" tire that is the same. You would have the same circumference and width but with more side wall.

Chris07GT 06-19-2009 08:26 PM

I just went from the stock 18's to the 20" CS69's. 255/35/20 Nitto front, 285/30/20 Nitto Rear. Love them so far

2007grabberGt 06-19-2009 08:35 PM

I love my 20's They ride and look great. If you feel need the speed you just put on you race rims and M/T's

Poco 06-19-2009 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by GM EATER (Post 6291862)
I'll go with your daughter rotational mass works! 20's Rock!

I'm saving up for a set of these 7 spoke 2281 Saleen series in black for my Grabber.
http://cruizinconcepts.com/saleen_mu...ica_wheels.asp

2007grabberGt 06-19-2009 11:02 PM

Sweet!!

2007grabberGt 06-19-2009 11:04 PM

by the way. Mine are as light as all the others. I just had to pay 3 times as much

Barricade643 06-20-2009 12:01 AM

So I was told

Nitto NT555 Extreme Performance in the the following sizes:

Front - 255/35-20
Rear - 285/30-20
255/35-20 $126 x2 = $252
285/30-20 $259 x2 = $518

So $770....uuugh.....


Is that about right?

Starfire 06-20-2009 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by tim.route (Post 6292673)
Are you an idiot? I meant that the tires were the SAME width and height. Never said anything about aspect ratios and such. I mean measure the tire you put on your 20" with a tape measure and then find a 16" or 17" tire that is the same. You would have the same circumference and width but with more side wall.

Ah and we resort to name calling, well I'm done with this thread because arguing over the internet is like winning the special olympics. Plus buy what you like and be happy.

wilkinda 06-20-2009 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by tim.route (Post 6292673)
Are you an idiot? I meant that the tires were the SAME width and height. Never said anything about aspect ratios and such. I mean measure the tire you put on your 20" with a tape measure and then find a 16" or 17" tire that is the same. You would have the same circumference and width but with more side wall.

Wow..someone always has to resort to name calling. Can't just have an intellectual debate or difference of opinion without some one always resorting to starting name calling and it looks like the instigator is you ...... What an idiot!!! :icon_angel:

Chris07GT 06-20-2009 07:36 AM

Lampoon, yeah, that's about right. Nobody said 20's were cheap!

whitestang07 06-20-2009 09:14 AM

I just took off my 20's and am very happy I will never put another 20 on my car they looked good but sucked ass overall mine weiged in at 70 pounds a piece

GM EATER 06-20-2009 06:25 PM

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG????

Chris07GT 06-20-2009 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by whitestang07 (Post 6293624)
I just took off my 20's and am very happy I will never put another 20 on my car they looked good but sucked ass overall mine weiged in at 70 pounds a piece

My 20's dont weigh much more than my Factory 18's. The UPS label on the 20's from American Muscle was 55 lbs each (including packaging). When I went to ship my 18's, they were 53 lbs each (including packaging).

Plus I run a set of 17" stockers front and back (with DR's in back) when I go to the track, so I was only worried about looks

tim.route 06-21-2009 12:25 PM

i never called anyone an idiot...I simply asked a question...

mygt500 06-22-2009 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Chris07GT (Post 6292732)
I just went from the stock 18's to the 20" CS69's. 255/35/20 Nitto front, 285/30/20 Nitto Rear. Love them so far

I have the same size rear tires and they stick very well esp when warm.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...lbum/tires.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...pphpKjltBL.jpg

Originally Posted by 2007grabberGt (Post 6292759)
I love my 20's They ride and look great. If you feel need the speed you just put on you race rims and M/T's

In my case I just step on the gas and let the Whipple propel me forward at a heart pounding pace:icon_razz: But seriously there was such a huge difference in feel of the motor and the new found power even with 20's.... here is some proof

http://www.alternativeauto.com/water...dios_08gt.html

http://www.alternativeauto.com/water...gt_page_2.html

Yup you read right.....10.72 in the 1/4 mile with 20's:icon_steer:

Originally Posted by tim.route;6292673[B
]Are you an idiot?[/b] I meant that the tires were the SAME width and height. Never said anything about aspect ratios and such. I mean measure the tire you put on your 20" with a tape measure and then find a 16" or 17" tire that is the same. You would have the same circumference and width but with more side wall.

You said you did not say that? :icon_shrug: Those are your words....right:icon_attention::icon_woot::icon_woo t:


Lets keep it as a debate and not take anything personally. Thats how threads get locked:icon_doh::icon_toast:

Poco 06-22-2009 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by tim.route (Post 6295732)
i never called anyone an idiot...I simply asked a question...

Just be careful.Interpretations get twisted in the context of a question or statement.I got pretty upset about a misunderstanding and got banned from the Grabber site,even my apology was misunderstood and I'm still banned.I still drive a grabber though. :)


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