The Legacy
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The Legacy
Do you all realize the "Legacy" that you are creating with your cars? This is the end of the gasoline era. We can already see the begining of the end. By 2008 when gas is 5$ a gallon the push for hybrid and ethanol engines will be so great the major three american manufactures will be starting to change from gasoline to ethanol. Hybrid ethanol cars will be the next future wave that will hit us. A gallon of ethanol by 2010 will only cost 30-40$ to produce. Oil will be in the 120's. This could be the end of the gasoline era. We are driving the best hightech preformance mustangs ever built and maybe on the short list of gasoline power stangs.
Twenty years from now, in 2026, this car will be a legend. You are creating this legend. Remember in Mad Max when the guy working on the car, A FORD BY THE WAY, and he says, "That's the last of the V-8 intercepters." This could be the moment. We are on the verge of a major shift of history. America freed from the middle east oil. The air much cleaner. Imagine how much capital flows out to the Middle East every single day in this country. Yes, major oil does and is making the highest profit ever, but that is what you do at the end. High stakes, take it while you can.
This could be it. This is likely one of the cars that will be forever talked about by motor heads for centurys to come. There will be horsepower in the future. Better octane, much much cleaner, and likely much faster. But this will be the end of the gasoline era.
Twenty years from now, in 2026, this car will be a legend. You are creating this legend. Remember in Mad Max when the guy working on the car, A FORD BY THE WAY, and he says, "That's the last of the V-8 intercepters." This could be the moment. We are on the verge of a major shift of history. America freed from the middle east oil. The air much cleaner. Imagine how much capital flows out to the Middle East every single day in this country. Yes, major oil does and is making the highest profit ever, but that is what you do at the end. High stakes, take it while you can.
This could be it. This is likely one of the cars that will be forever talked about by motor heads for centurys to come. There will be horsepower in the future. Better octane, much much cleaner, and likely much faster. But this will be the end of the gasoline era.
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RE: The Legacy
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ORIGINAL: Scaught
Do you all realize the "Legacy" that you are creating with your cars? This is the end of the gasoline era. We can already see the begining of the end. By 2008 when gas is 5$ a gallon the push for hybrid and ethanol engines will be so great the major three american manufactures will be starting to change from gasoline to ethanol. Hybrid ethanol cars will be the next future wave that will hit us. A gallon of ethanol by 2010 will only cost 30-40$ to produce. Oil will be in the 120's. This could be the end of the gasoline era. We are driving the best hightech preformance mustangs ever built and maybe on the short list of gasoline power stangs.
Twenty years from now, in 2026, this car will be a legend. You are creating this legend. Remember in Mad Max when the guy working on the car, A FORD BY THE WAY, and he says, "That's the last of the V-8 intercepters." This could be the moment. We are on the verge of a major shift of history. America freed from the middle east oil. The air much cleaner. Imagine how much capital flows out to the Middle East every single day in this country. Yes, major oil does and is making the highest profit ever, but that is what you do at the end. High stakes, take it while you can.
This could be it. This is likely one of the cars that will be forever talked about by motor heads for centurys to come. There will be horsepower in the future. Better octane, much much cleaner, and likely much faster. But this will be the end of the gasoline era.
Do you all realize the "Legacy" that you are creating with your cars? This is the end of the gasoline era. We can already see the begining of the end. By 2008 when gas is 5$ a gallon the push for hybrid and ethanol engines will be so great the major three american manufactures will be starting to change from gasoline to ethanol. Hybrid ethanol cars will be the next future wave that will hit us. A gallon of ethanol by 2010 will only cost 30-40$ to produce. Oil will be in the 120's. This could be the end of the gasoline era. We are driving the best hightech preformance mustangs ever built and maybe on the short list of gasoline power stangs.
Twenty years from now, in 2026, this car will be a legend. You are creating this legend. Remember in Mad Max when the guy working on the car, A FORD BY THE WAY, and he says, "That's the last of the V-8 intercepters." This could be the moment. We are on the verge of a major shift of history. America freed from the middle east oil. The air much cleaner. Imagine how much capital flows out to the Middle East every single day in this country. Yes, major oil does and is making the highest profit ever, but that is what you do at the end. High stakes, take it while you can.
This could be it. This is likely one of the cars that will be forever talked about by motor heads for centurys to come. There will be horsepower in the future. Better octane, much much cleaner, and likely much faster. But this will be the end of the gasoline era.
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Well, I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. Really, it would be a great thing to be free of oil importation. Plus, I cannot imagine the next fuel, if it truely is Ethanol, being worse or under preforming. Maybe in the early stages of it but I prefer to see something better down the road. High octane and faster cars. Cleaner and greener can also be faster and louder. We don't have to give up the freedom of a bad *** car that kicks butt. Just change what we put in it. Oil can last 100 more years but at what cost price wise? Do you all love paying 3$ + per gallon? What happens when it is 5$+???? There has to be a fix. Cleaner and cheaper. Maybe we won't call them BIG OIL anymore, we'll call them BIG CORN...
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I think BIG CORN will be much worse than BIG OIL ever was. Big Oil manipulates price based on what politics are happening around the world. Big Corn will be based on the weather and crop output and labor costs. These things are much more volatile than even war. And thinking we wont depend on foreign power just because we switch fuel types is a huge myth. If fuel type shift to ethanol based fuel American farmer wont be able to meet the demand or beat the price that India can sell for. (I believe they are one of the worlds leading corn producers now). The same thing will happen to corn based fuel that is happening with dinofuel, big companies will control the supply in and out and regulate the price for huge profit as they always have.
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ORIGINAL: Scaught
Well, I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. Really, it would be a great thing to be free of oil importation. Plus, I cannot imagine the next fuel, if it truely is Ethanol, being worse or under preforming. Maybe in the early stages of it but I prefer to see something better down the road. High octane and faster cars. Cleaner and greener can also be faster and louder. We don't have to give up the freedom of a bad *** car that kicks butt. Just change what we put in it. Oil can last 100 more years but at what cost price wise? Do you all love paying 3$ + per gallon? What happens when it is 5$+???? There has to be a fix. Cleaner and cheaper. Maybe we won't call them BIG OIL anymore, we'll call them BIG CORN...
Well, I'm not trying to be doom and gloom. Really, it would be a great thing to be free of oil importation. Plus, I cannot imagine the next fuel, if it truely is Ethanol, being worse or under preforming. Maybe in the early stages of it but I prefer to see something better down the road. High octane and faster cars. Cleaner and greener can also be faster and louder. We don't have to give up the freedom of a bad *** car that kicks butt. Just change what we put in it. Oil can last 100 more years but at what cost price wise? Do you all love paying 3$ + per gallon? What happens when it is 5$+???? There has to be a fix. Cleaner and cheaper. Maybe we won't call them BIG OIL anymore, we'll call them BIG CORN...
Technically there are resources of oil still untapped that would last WELL beyond 100 years, they are just CURRENTLY more expensive than current sources to produce....
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RE: The Legacy
Sugar cane and corn both suck. Cellulosic is where it will be. But ya Brazil has used Sugar to free them from oil.
I think the original poster is right. When I looked at this car I wondered, will people look at it the way we look at 40 year old mustangs 40 years from now? Initially I thought now way. I mean, cheesy plastic interior pieces, plastic parts everywhere instead of chrome, boring interior colors etc etc.
But honestly in 40 or 50 years cars will be totally different. Ethanol probably but maybe hydrogen or electric. Cars might be tiny 1.3 liter gnats. A V-8 muscle car with a unique fossil fuel engine and throaty exhaust is probably gonna be a rarity. We'll harp back to the "good ole days" of gas and muscle.
So I agree. I also think we're at the end of the gasoline era. Maybe not the very end, but we're getting close. Once gas gets to 4-5 dollars a gallon (not looking all that far off anymore huh?) then these alternative sources become not only economically viable, but cheaper. The demand for "cheap" $4 a gallon fuel will surge and gas will phase out. Brazil has already basically done it. Sweden has a 15 year plan to. I don't think the transition will be as hard as most think.
I think the original poster is right. When I looked at this car I wondered, will people look at it the way we look at 40 year old mustangs 40 years from now? Initially I thought now way. I mean, cheesy plastic interior pieces, plastic parts everywhere instead of chrome, boring interior colors etc etc.
But honestly in 40 or 50 years cars will be totally different. Ethanol probably but maybe hydrogen or electric. Cars might be tiny 1.3 liter gnats. A V-8 muscle car with a unique fossil fuel engine and throaty exhaust is probably gonna be a rarity. We'll harp back to the "good ole days" of gas and muscle.
So I agree. I also think we're at the end of the gasoline era. Maybe not the very end, but we're getting close. Once gas gets to 4-5 dollars a gallon (not looking all that far off anymore huh?) then these alternative sources become not only economically viable, but cheaper. The demand for "cheap" $4 a gallon fuel will surge and gas will phase out. Brazil has already basically done it. Sweden has a 15 year plan to. I don't think the transition will be as hard as most think.