Hey guys I was searching in the group buy section and found stangmods.com is selling 8000k HIDs' for $300. I was wondering if anyone has bought these off of them and installed them. It says plug and play but that there is "light"(as in not much, but still some) wiring that needs to be done. Is it easy to install then since its mainly plug and play. And I was also wodering if it would void any part of my warranty. I didnt think it would since these are consuming less power and ruduced in heat as compared to the stock halogens. Also one last think are these 8000ks illegal in anyway? I live in arizona so im not sure the laws on it. I dont see why it would b but if it is i wouldnt get it. I figured they are selling for free only this month w/ the HID kit, matching fog light halogen bulbs. So i figured why not.

 

"8000k" will never be illegal. It is a measurement of COLOR, not of light output (brightness). The higher the K-number, the closer to "white" the light will be. Theoretically it's possible to have a 8000k lamp that is no brighter than a child's night-light. It'd be dim, but it would be WHITE. Note that a lot of manufacturers of "performance lights" will try to pass off K-numbers (color temperature) as brightness. That's simply misleading advertising. K-number is Color only, and has nothing to do with the actual amount of light emitted by the bulb.

As for your warrantly, if you actally get out your manuals and read them, you'll see that ANY mod will technically void your warranty. It doesn't matter if that mod is "safer" than the stock configuration. Legally, if you mod it--AT ALL--you are voiding the warranty. Now, in reality it comes down to the quality of service at your dealer. If they are nice and you don't give them undue grief, they'll probably honor the warranty. But, if they don't like you for some reason, or if they're having a bad day, they could use the mods as an excuse to deny warranty work. Personally, my opinion is that you're not too likely to get hassled over this, but YMMV.

The only exception to the warranty issue I described above, is the brand of replacement parts is protected under Magnuson-Moss. In other words, if you change your oil, you don't have to use a "ford" brand oil filter. If you go and buy a Fram, Ford can't deny your warranty because of that. However, I belive that Magnuson-Moss only applys to stock replacement items. So you could install a different brand of headlamp bulb, so long as they were the same spec as stock. But you can't change to a different type of bulb (such as a different wattage or HID) without technically voiding the warranty.

 

I think that you would loose your high beams with that kit.

 

Ya i kind of figured id loose the highbeams with HIDs, but i hardly ever use them. My lows are so weak though its almost like im drivin my 92 camry again haha. With the HIDs ill b able to see alot more and not have to worry about turning my brights on becuase I will already see allot of the road.

 

also my buddy is tellin me that I will loose power because the HIDs will consume more amperage. I told him he was wrong but i wasnt sure because it says less watts but not amperage

 

Yeah that doesn't sound quite right. HID discharge lamps work at very high voltage w/ low amperage but I don't really know what the ballasts draw. It's probably printed on the label.

 

Yeah, your buddy doesn't know what he's talking about.

Amps and watts are related together. You can't increase one without increasing the other (and vice versa).

The HID bulb itself runs on very high voltage, produced by the ballast. But the ballast is still drawing power from the car's electrical system (13.8 V). At that point, both the HID system and "traditional bulbs" are both drawing 13.8 V.

The equation is Volts * Amps = Watts.

You'll notice that in both of the situations we're talking about (HID ballast or traditional bulb) the voltage is the SAME. In both cases, the Watt-Amp relationship will be the same as well.

HIDs are more efficient than traditional bulbs. Assuming the HID ballast uses the same amount of current (amps) as the stock bulbs, the HID lights will put a lot more light on the road. Stangmods says that their system draws less current (amps) than stock, therefore less watts as well. It's possible that due to the better efficiency of the HID process that you'd still be getting more light on the road.

BUT, at this point I want to point out that we have no idea what the actual current draw or light output of the HID kit is. This is what I was trying to say in my earlier post: This company doesn't tell you what the light output of their HID kit is. We know it's "whiter" than stock (8000 k) but we don't know what the light output is. They could be dimmer than stock--we don't know. I looked at stangmod's "tech specs" page, but there isn't a single spec to be found! It's just a couple of "before and after" pictures--that's it. Nothing concrete at all. I would only buy these if you have the option to return them if you don't like them.

 

Spend the couple extra $ and get the Saleen HID's. they are a full replacement to the factory headlights. And you wont have to worry about legal issues or loose you high beams. I dont have them on mine, but I have heard great things about them. (vert bright)

 

Will daytime running lights work with the HID units?
~Darren

 

some of this doesn't seem quite right. the K numberdoes have to do with color, but the higher the number does not equate to a "whiter" light. 8000k and 10000k bulbs are often more blue or purple than white. when talking about automotive HID lamps, traditionally, the lower the K number, the brighter the light output (in lumens). this doesnt mean lower K = more light, its just how it happens to work out most of the time. however the 4300k bulbs arent "pure white" looking and still have a bit of yellow color, but usually output the most lumens. most people would rather lose a bit of output to get a pure white or slightly bluish white beam by going with a 5000k or 6000k bulb. as you move into 8000k and beyond, you will have more color, but less light output.

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