Haze28

I'm hoping to be able to get some sort of FI next spring and have been looking around at various turbo kits and have narrowed it down to two kits. Hellion and HP Performance. They are similar in ways but they have some differences that will come into play. Although Hellion is more reputable and a majority of the New Edge turbo mustangs run this setup, the kit for 05+ Mustangs have a couple thigs I am worried about.

The major thing is they designed this kit to be able to be installed using the stock K-member but the piping goes under the K-member so having this on a lowered car would cause big time ground clearance problems. The HP kit keeps the stock K-mamber also but they were able to keep all of the piping tucked up pretty close to the body and above the K-member alot better.

Here is the parts list for each kit, if anyone could give me an idea of which one would be better to run i'd appreciate it. [/align][/align]Also, i'm about 90% sure I will be running a turbo setup, unless I find a real good deal on a supercharger.




2005-2007 MUSTANG GT STAGE I SYSTEM COMPONENT LIST

1 - 60mm Garrett turbocharger with Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated turbine housing.
1 - 38mm Tial wastegate.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated passenger header to driver header turbo/crossover pipe.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated driver header to turbo pipe with crossover connection from passenger header.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated downpipe.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated turbo intake tube
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic coated turbocharger to intercooler tube.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated intercooler to mass air tube.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated throttle body to mass air meter tube.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated mass air to throttle body tube.
1 - Jet-Hot® Sterling® ceramic-coated Y-pipe with bracket.
1 - Factory mass air meter calibrated to 39# fuel injectors
8 - 39# fuel injectors.
1 - Ford GT Supercar fuel pump upgrade
1 - Diablo Predator tuning package
1 - Turbocharger intake air filter and clamp.
1 - Turbocharger oil inlet fitting.
1 - Turbocharger oil inlet hose assembly.
1 - Turbocharger oil outlet fitting.
1 - Turbocharger oil outlet hose.
1 - Turbocharger oil outlet hose fitting.
1 - Turbocharger compressor housing clamp.
1 - Pressure port tee.
1 - Oil tee extension.
1 - Bosch blow off valve.
1 - Intake to blowoff valve hose.
1 - Blowoff valve to turbo intake hose.
2 - Blowoff valve clamps
1 - Power steering reservoir relocation bracket
1 - Lot 3-ply Silicone Hose Couplings.
1 - Lot Stainless Steel V-Band Clamps
1 - Lot Stainless Steel T-Bolt Clamps
1 - Lot Misc. Nuts, bolts, washers
1 - Lot Exhaust Clamps
1 - Detailed turbocharger system installation manual.
1-year parts and workmanship warranty, a 3-year ceramic coating warranty and a limited lifetime warranty on all tubing components





Hellion Kit

SOLO ITEMS
(1) Turbonetics 62mm Turbo
(1) Hellion 24x6x3 Intercooler
(1) Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
(1) Set of 39lb injectors
(1) UPR Air filter
(1) Bypass Valve

BRACKETS
(2) nut brackets for sway bar HT 17
(1) Turbo Support Bracket HT 18
(2) Sway Bar relocation Brackets HT 19
(1) Turbo Support Strap HT 20
(1) Intercooler Support Strap HT 21 short
(1) Intercooler Support Starp HT22 long
(1) Power Steering extension bracket 1 HT 23
(1) Power Steering extension bracket 2 HT 24

HARDWARE KIT
(1) 1/8 pipe male to #4 pipe straight fitting
(1) 1/8 pipe male to 1/8 pipe female 90 degree fitting
(1) #4 male x ¼ male pipe 90 degree fitting
(1) ¼ pipe female x ¼ pipe female x ¼ pipe male Tee
(2) 5/16 x 1.5 in hex head bolts for wastegate
(2) 5/16 x 1 in socket head bolts for wastegate
(4) 5/16 x ¾ in long turbo bracket bolts
(3) 5/16 x 1 in long bolts for intercooler brackets
( 5/16 washers
(2 5/16 locknuts for wastegate
(2) 10mm x 1.5 x 30 mm hex head sway bar bolt
(2) 10mm x 1.5 x 30 mm counter sunk sway bar bolts
(4) 10mm x 1.5 nylock nuts
(5) 5/16 nylock nuts
(2) #8 x ½ in sheet metal screws for mass air sensor
(2) M8 x 20mm bolts for oil drain to turbo
(2) M8 washers
(4) 10mm washers
(4) 3/8 in flanged nuts
(6) 3/8 in x 1.5 in long bolts for crossover connection to turbo
(10) 3.8 in washers
(1) PCV valve 5/8 in to 3/8 in

OIL LINE KIT
(2) # 10 push lock straight female hose fitting
(1) 26 inch # 10 oil return hose
(1) 3/8 to # 10 oil return fitting
(1) 47 inch oil feed line
(1) 3 ft. 7/32 vacuum line for bypass valve
(1) ¼ inch tee
(1) oil outlet flange
(1) # 10 oil outlet fitting
(1) punch for oil pan
(1) 3/8th in pipe tap
(10) Zip ties

HEAT WRAP KIT
(1) 10 ft. heat wrap roll

SILICONE HOSE KIT
(1) 4 in. x 3.5 in. silicone hose
(4) 2.5 in. x 3 in silicone hose
(1) 2.5 in x 7 in silicone hose
(1) oval TB inlet hose
(2) 1 3/8 in x 3 in. silicone hose

CLAMP KIT
(2) 2 in hose clamps for thermostat hose splice
(4) ¾ inch hose clamps for coolant can splice
(2) 4 to 4 ½ inch hose clamps
(4) 21-44mm for bypass valve
(3) 3 inch torq clamps for exhaust
(2) 2.5 inch torq clamps for exhaust
(1) 1 5/8 inch clamp for wastegate outlet
(11) 2.5 inch T-bolt clamps
(3) 3 inch v-band clamps for turbine outlet

BREATHER HOSE KIT
(1) 36 inch 3/8 inch breather hose
(1) 6 inch long 5/8 in. black breather hose
(1) 13 inch ¾ in breather hose
(4) 3/8 in. breather hose clamps
(3) 5/8 in breather hose clamps

PIPE KIT
(1) Turbo inlet 05 HT 1
(1) Rearward exhaust pipe 05 HT 2
(1) Downpipe 05 HT 3
(1) Turbo inlet 05 HT 4
(1) Middle exhaust pipe 05 HT 5
(1) Y pipe 05 HT 6
(1) Turbo Inlet pipe 05 HT 7
(1) Rearward Turbo crossover 05 HT 8
(1) Intercooler pipe #1 05 HT 9
(1) Intercooler pipe #2 05 HT 10
(1) Intercooler pipe #3 05 HT 11
(1) Intercooler pipe #4 05 HT 12 polished
(1) 4 in turbo inlet pipe 05 HT 13 polished
(1) coolant can splice 05 HT 14
(1) Thermostat hose splice 05 HT 15
(1) Wastegate outlet pipe


One other thing I just noticed is the HP kit comes with a fuel system upgrade and the Hellion doesn't. The HP kit is also cheaper by about 500-700 bucks. I just don't know who uses better components.[/align]

banka87

I like the Hellion kits.

Caution

If you like the Hellion then get that but fabricate the piping the way you like... it may cost more but you get what you want... thats what I would do anyway

CataclysmGT

HP is good stuff. Garrett is a better turbo as well.

boosted02GT

The hellion kit is just the turbonetics kit according to some other people on the boards here, I think that is true but not sure. Also check out the Granatelli Motorsports kit. They are getting great numbers from their kit.

DeStonn

Supercharger FTW

retfr8flyr

Before you make up your mind I recommend you talk to Jim Napier at TurboHorsepower.com about his single kit. Jim puts togeather a great kit and as it is custom made he will set it up exactly how you want. His prices are also very good.

Earl

PROMETHEUS PRIME

I've been thinking of going withHahn RaceCraft, Inctwin turbo setup.
http://www.hahnracecraft.com/New_Fol...o%20System.htm

boosted02GT

That Hahn kit looks OK, but they are using a very cheap turbo and still charging alot of money for the kit. a 15G is a very small turbo, for instance a 16G is a basic upgrade for most 4 cylinder turbo cars, and that is just the bottom of the barrel. Also that kit will probably be maxed out around the 550-600 wheel range. If you ever plan to do a built motor than that kit will be close to useless.

The turbohorsepower kit looks to be a good choice. The single and twin setups look to be good for the money, the components are very good that is for sure. I have seen problem with Turbonetics kits. I have used them on other customers cars at our shop and had problems, I will admit that I haven't used their mustang kit, but I have used their 350Z/G35 kits and there is some problems, the most notable is boost creep is incredibly apparent

If you are serious about spending in the 5500-7000 dollar range you should look at having someone custom build a kit for you. As soon as winter hits here in Michigan my 07 will be going under the knife. If the kit comes out as well as we are hoping that it will then we will be releasing a kit to the general marketplace. I will be starting a thread as soon as we get going on the project so pay attention for that.

Lito

Another thing to consider is availability, we got an Hellion from Brent @ brenspeed a got shipped in less than two weeks, their kit is the same hellion one but with some more stuff like GT pumps, spark plugs, etc. Obviously you get a tune from Brent, we have not tested that yet cause we have not installed it but surely comes handy.On the other side, HP is a great product but it can take forever to get the piping from Jet Hot, we bought a 61mm BB TT for a stroked 2000GT (mind blowing performance) and in the end we got the whole thing with a few minor itches but is very good as a whole.

Myself, ordered a kit from HP, 67mm BB, to risky with the pipes under the k-member for me with the Hellion, read that they had improved the process of delivery from Jet Hot, time will tell. We are on week 2 of a 4-5 weeks wait time.