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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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Here is a link to a air filter test, It is independent.
I dont think I will purchase a K-N now!
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 03:15 AM
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Damn, thats depressing. Unless the filters test differently for cars than diesels, I stand corrected. Sure like to see a response from K&N tho.
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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thats scary.....
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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I don't know about this test. We had several different publications that had tested HP increase with different filters. Now they had been very simple non scientific tests but for the most part the KNs had always showed a HP gain. If the results of the test posted in that site are accurate, the KN poor performance would lead to HP loss not gain. Just my .02
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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If this study keeps you from using a K&N then you don't understand why you'd want to use a K&N in the first place!

This is the most important statement in that study... (and I'll add "duh!" to that)

"The Flow Restriction response curves for each filter have the same basic shape. However, note how the AC Filter, which passed the smallest amount of dirt and had the highest dirt capacity and efficiency, also had the highest relative restriction to flow. The less efficient filters correspondingly had less restriction to flow. This illustrates the apparent trade-offs between optimizing a filter for dirt capturing ability and maximum airflow."

Old Apr 29, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Applause to CoochDog!!!!
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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So it appears that the K&N flows air well, but is inefficient at trapping dirt. That was HALF the reason to buy one! They say you dont have to mess with em for about 40,000 miles and that the dirtier they get, the better they work. Maybe they should test some dirty ones!
Old Apr 29, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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So it appears that the K&N flows air well, but is inefficient at trapping dirt.
Not inefficient. LESS efficient. (The filter efficiency graph uses 96% as it's baseline ) That's the tradeoff for having increased airflow. And yes, according to K&N their efficiency increases with use (and the airflow thus decreases as the filter accumulates more dirt) so I'd be interested to see the test performed with dirty airfilters as well.


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I didnt expect it to pass that much dirt. I think if, and I say IF, Ford (or any mfg) wanted to make an issue out it, they could probably blame engine problems on the extra "contaminants" that it passes. I know its a stretch but I didnt expect it to pass that much more.

If I read the charts right, it looks like it passes 7 times more dirt. That is more than I would have guessed.
Old Apr 30, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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If this study keeps you from using a K&N then you don't understand why you'd want to use a K&N in the first place!

This is the most important statement in that study... (and I'll add "duh!" to that)

"The Flow Restriction response curves for each filter have the same basic shape. However, note how the AC Filter, which passed the smallest amount of dirt and had the highest dirt capacity and efficiency, also had the highest relative restriction to flow. The less efficient filters correspondingly had less restriction to flow. This illustrates the apparent trade-offs between optimizing a filter for dirt capturing ability and maximum airflow."

I dont know if you were being a smart *** to me or not? but I seen the test, and thought I would pass it on, it is like the people buying the exhaust systems that give no hp gains or very little for $500, I wont buy it, and I had no idea the K-N performerd so badly compared to a stock filter. So I will keep my stock filter in it. I know what the K-N box says hp/ torque gains, it doesnt say it will let more dirt in. I have a K-N in my Suburban and there was no mileage gains, Really no HP gains when I had it dynoed, it was the same as a new stock A/C filter. Oh I am wrong it did above 4500, it had marginal improvment. And I dont drive around at 4500 all the time. I would like to see another test for car filters, but if it is going to let in more dirt for very little gain when new, then what happens when it gets to there, it works better when dirty, no hp gain?



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