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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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I just don't see how you'd get enough water to travel uphill thru 3' of ducting to splash all over the filter in any sort of appreciable way. That will not even be possible with the setup I'm planning to try. The fan will be mounted somewhere behind the bumper and perpendicular to the flow from driving. The idea is to use the fan to source air from outside the engine bay. It'll have an on/off switch. IDK, I have low expectations, but the idea seems plausible. Its looking to be a decent weekend, so I may try this tomorrow or Sunday.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Talking Success!

Changed tubing to Aircraft duct tubing. Added a fan wired to a fused outlet (turns on with the accessories) and added a switch. result -30 degrees difference between no pipe/pipe with fan. The fun sucks air from my initial front grill hole. Will post pictures of the finished product over the weekend!

The fan is rated for 145cft/m. It feels enough air for me. (what is the conversion cft/m to lbs/m) (I know exactly how much air my engine sucks through my aeroforce gauges in lbs/m)

The aircraft ducting is keeping the air a lot cooler than the aluminium and due to lesser ribs I think you have smother flow of air to the intake.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Looks great and works even better.. I am considering a symmetrical hole on the passenger side, but not sure where to direct the air.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Hey thats great news man! Definitely post some pics of your setup, and I will document the install of mine as well this weekend and put pics/info in here. I think I have everything I need except maybe a 3" hose clamp, some wire and a wiretap. -30 degrees far exceeds my expectations. I hope I can get similar results.

If you did a second fan on the passenger side, I suppose you could direct the flow over the S/C...

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Great going Vasman, I'm glad the negative thinkers didn't discourage you. It sure isn't "forced induction" but it never was intended to be, and cooler under the hood is always a good thing.

Looking forward to the pics and a nice write up.
Old Sep 19, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Here it is. My wife is chasing me on the honey do list so I cannot write in detail at this moment, but here are the pics starting from the top till the inner side of the front California bumper and the front. Also 2 pics of the motor switch that is illuminated when on. It is located under the steering column. (cool side affect you get a blue hew between your legs at night sure to impress the wife LOL). And for those cringing about Home Depot parts in the car, I switched to Lowes... (better rubber piping there...)





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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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At low vehicle speeds, that fan will definitely help, but at higher speeds- that fan will be a restriction. It cannot move the amount of CFM that can flow through that tube at higher speeds. I am not going to discuss this any further.
Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by socalwrench
At low vehicle speeds, that fan will definitely help, but at higher speeds- that fan will be a restriction. It cannot move the amount of CFM that can flow through that tube at higher speeds. I am not going to discuss this any further.
So are you saying it will cause drag at higher speeds?
Old Sep 19, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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I say you log your IAT with an without and see if there is a difference.
Old Sep 19, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gburke1
So are you saying it will cause drag at higher speeds?
I think he's saying the airflow will be restricted at higher speeds. I think it can't be any more restricted than not having this setup at all.
Old Sep 19, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shanec
I think he's saying the airflow will be restricted at higher speeds. I think it can't be any more restricted than not having this setup at all.
+100000000000000000000000000


Just to add a couple more points.
a/It is providing more air for 90% of my driving (city). Further the system works great tested up to 100mph for continuous 10 mins. Having fan on or off no difference over 60mph. IAT readings cooler than without pipe by 25-30 degrees at any speed.

socalwrench you are most likely correct that the system without fun works somewhat better at high speeds. I guess you can go with or without the fun depending on your driving style.

HOWEVER, one big point here, particularly for thew tween screw crowd (like me). Those systems sit over an oven (the engine block) that operates at 200-210 degree temp. When we run no or very little air into the system after a drive the sc gets heated like a duck in the oven. Having the fan, can circulate cooler air at low rpm and keep you sc and intercooler cool. +++ on hp.

I broke my head how to bring 2 pipes in the area, one motorized and one free flow (from the passenger side).
a/ I cannot find enough space for 2 pipes to enter the filter compartment
b/ Yes you can easily put a T or a Y connection and combine the systems prior to getting the air filter area, however there will be significant loses of air at low rpm, which defeats the purpose of having a fan.

The only way you can combine the 2 systems as far as I can tell is with a hood that forces air in the area, combined with the fan bringing air from the front. (or somehow find a way to run the 2nd pipe.

In anycase I do not expect big difference from what you already achieve with the system I am presenting. 145cft/m is a lot of air. You need to feel it to judge.

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