Hurst Shifter/Shift Stops
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Back when aftermarket shifters were really becoming popular for the weekend mechanic, most mustangs were equipped with some version of the T-5, which had no internal shift stops. Wrenching through the gears was hard on the tranny and often resulted in damage. Aftermarket companies began engineering shifters with external shift stops to reduce the chance of damage. The TR3650 in the S197 has internal shift stops. Therefore, it is not necessary to buy a shifter with external shift stops.
Hope that clears it up.
Hope that clears it up.
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From: Pa
For what it's worth... mgw offers shift stops for it's shifter (for an extra $15) and if you buy it, they incluce in the instructions a nice big piece of paper that says they do NOT recommend using them as the Tremec 3650 has internal stops.
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the stops are so that if you have big man hands and rip at your lever as you shift, it will not stress your shift linkage, or rip it off your transmission.
I have the one your talking about and LOVE it... very high quality, shifts very nice, so much stronger and solid then stock or the cheaper one.
For the stops IIRC you just put it in 3rd gear, screw the top stop in till its touching the shifter, then back it off like 2 threads, so you have like 1-2mm between the stop and the resting, in 3rd gear location of the shifter. Then tighten the lock nut, pull it into 4th and do the same with the back one. Now go through all your gears and make sure your not hitting any of the stops while fully engaged. Then try slamming it to like 2nd then 3rd. As you push it hard, your should tap the stop but when you let go with it in that gear, you should see it come back to a natural rest in gear and not hitting the stop.
I have the one your talking about and LOVE it... very high quality, shifts very nice, so much stronger and solid then stock or the cheaper one.
For the stops IIRC you just put it in 3rd gear, screw the top stop in till its touching the shifter, then back it off like 2 threads, so you have like 1-2mm between the stop and the resting, in 3rd gear location of the shifter. Then tighten the lock nut, pull it into 4th and do the same with the back one. Now go through all your gears and make sure your not hitting any of the stops while fully engaged. Then try slamming it to like 2nd then 3rd. As you push it hard, your should tap the stop but when you let go with it in that gear, you should see it come back to a natural rest in gear and not hitting the stop.
Thanks that Clears up a lot
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From: FL
Back when aftermarket shifters were really becoming popular for the weekend mechanic, most mustangs were equipped with some version of the T-5, which had no internal shift stops. Wrenching through the gears was hard on the tranny and often resulted in damage. Aftermarket companies began engineering shifters with external shift stops to reduce the chance of damage. The TR3650 in the S197 has internal shift stops. Therefore, it is not necessary to buy a shifter with external shift stops.
Hope that clears it up.
Hope that clears it up.
Thats strange.. I wonder why they would offer them if our transmissions already have them internally?
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From: CT
your still stressing the linkage iteself, it may save the internals, but your still gonna have a repir bill if you damage the linkage itself. That aside, the rest of it is well worth it, the machined arm looks very nice, and is very very solid.
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From: Pa. outside Philly
The shifter on the cars is bolted to the body of the car and the transmission. When the drivetrain is torqued up, like a full throttle launch the engine and trans. are going to move and twist. Those 1 or 2 threads you back off on the stops might not be enough for that movement. If the shifter is mounted to the trans. only those stops on the shifter would be good.
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From: Ofallon, IL
I've got the billet shifter in... Adjusted the stops exactly as instructions... make sure in gear, touch the shifter and lock 'em down...
While jamin, this shifter ROCKS... bammin gears I can feel it hit the stops... if it protects only the linkage, fine...
Jury still out on just crusing... just not used to it yet...
While jamin, this shifter ROCKS... bammin gears I can feel it hit the stops... if it protects only the linkage, fine...
Jury still out on just crusing... just not used to it yet...
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