Menace

Ford is planning on releasing the 2011 5.0 Crate engine.

Part # M-6007-M5L

I have been contemplating about this for a while, but I think I will definitely have to wait. Everyone is saying $6999.99 price tag, and then an extra $1500.00 for the computer. It will be interesting to see what Brenspeed, BBR, and others do with the engine when it is released, and I am sure there will be bare blocks, short, long, etc available for purchase as well.

The new 5.0 isn't going to be enough for me however, so I'll wait for an upgraded version. One with forged internals, head work, and some nice cams, while still keeping the high compression, as opposed to paying for a complete motor only to take it apart for the above mentioned items. I'm excited though, any news is good news so it'll be interesting to see what happens!

PS, Hope no one has already beaten this mule to death!

candymanjl

that's a lot of money when you compare it to a blower and the fact that the stock 4.6L motor on boost will make a lot more power than the 5.0 will stock. yes you can boost the 5.0 but now you're at $8,500 + $6,000 for the supercharger and you still have a stock motor, stock fuel system, etc.

if you just want the "5.0" then that's cool but if you want a lot of power then just get a blower for your stock motor and build the motor later with the FRPP or brenspeed bottom end. then add some supporting parts and you're ready for big power without spending as much as switching to the 5.0 motor.

now maybe the new 5.0 motor will be a beast like the GT500 motor and handle tons of power in stock form. then you could make the argument that you're basically getting a built motor when you do the swap, then it would make a little more sense.

joutcelt

from my understanding the new new motor is hardly sc friendly.

The_Enforcer

ive been waiting to hear about this, swap the 4.0L for a 5.0L

distantsoldier

A friend was thinking of swapping his 4.6 for a 5.0...went down and talked to Ford and they said that the 5.0 engines are only being offered as warranty items right now...and that they won't be offering a "crate engine" for at least 6 months.

Hope this is a long term project for ya...

That being said...the 5.0, with forged internals, lopier cams, and better heads/intake will make some serious power...more than a S/C 4.6L. Also, the 5.0 isn't simply a 4.6 with a stroker...so I'm sure there will be some bored & stroked combinations coming out too for extra cubes...

From everything I've ready and heard I'm expecting good things from the 5.0 in aftermarket form

Unleashedbeast

Not at 11:1 compression it won't. High boost is NOT an option with pump gas at that ratio. Better stay with the 4.6L with forged internals and save some cash.

Unleashedbeast

I doubt you will see more than ~5 lbs. of boost on 93 octane. The percentage of increase isn't going to be as much versus a lower compression engine. The only way to allow more boost is with race fuels, and who wants the extra cost or hassle?

candymanjl

yeah everyone is all worried about the compression ratio but that's not a big deal as long as the rods are strong.

go on the S2000 forums and you'll see guys running bone stock motors at 11.0:1 compression ratio and 500+whp on pump gas, 600-700whp on E85 and/or race gas. that's because even though it's high compression it's got forged internals from the factory. stay conservative with the timing to avoid detonation and it's fine. now the tranny and rear end on the S2000, that's a different story

it'll be interesting to see what people get out of the new 5.0 motors before they break. I'm not hating on them, but for the cost of the swap I don't think it's worth it. a stock 5.0 you're only gonna get 375-400whp, add mods to the 5.0 for more power and the $8,500 swap is even more money. meanwhile a Kenne Bell or Whipple will get you close to 500whp on a stock 4.6L for around $6,000. it doesn't make sense to me to spend $2,500 more to have over 100whp less. honestly at that point it makes more sense to take that $8,500, plus your car as a trade, and go get the 2011 GT, especially if your current GT is paid off.

now if the 5.0 motor was like $4000 - $5000 and built to handle 800+ hp then yeah, go for it

Unleashedbeast

Exactly....the 5.0 doesn't, and that makes a big difference.

kawasakiguy

Couldn't you just do a forged 4.6 setup and some kind of FI for the price of the 5.0?