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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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I have a 2010 GT myself. I ordered the C & L CAI / SCT Tuner combo from AM. It will be here on Tuesday. I will post an update once I get it installed.
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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No problem, guys! I think you'll be very happy with the overall difference!
Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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anyone know if the CAI and tuner make much of a diff on the 2011? I know the tune should but the CAI? same deal as the 2010?
Old Sep 3, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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If you order a Bama Tune on-line from American Muscle, you can get free tunes anytime you add something new. So, you don't have to sacrifice anything down the road. At least, that's what AM's website says!

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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Tuning makes a huge difference on the 2011's, as there are quite a few ponies left on the table from the factory. With a CAI/Tune, you can gain over 40RWHP on 93 octane. It's quite a difference!

And yes, the above post is correct. We do offer free tunes for life for that vehicle. So, no matter what modifications that you purchase (other than some aftermarket superchargers/turbo), you'll be covered!
Old Sep 5, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AMChrisRose

I also like the fact that you typically pick up a MPG or two, and the fact that it's an oiled filter and open element. (ONLY WHEN OILED CORRECTLY AND NOT OVER-OILED) With that being said...
Could you provide any guidance on what oiled correctly means and how to do it?

Thanks!
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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Thanks guys for All your inputs they are all greatly appreciated
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by douglasland
Could you provide any guidance on what oiled correctly means and how to do it?
Oiling filters is a PITA and I'm personally done with it. If you buy a reusable filter it comes pre-oiled so it's done correctly and no need to worry about it. The problems arise down the road when you have to clean it and re-oil. You have to wait for the filter to be completely dry, then apply the right amount of oil (not too much or too little) evenly.

That's why I went with the AFE dry filter for my 2010; it might not flow quite as good as the oiled filter (which they offer as well) but it's much easier to clean and take care of. I also like the design which offers more surface area than any other in-box filter I know of. It's kind of like putting a conical filter in the factory airbox.

I haven't seen any wild improvments with aftermarket CAIs on the 2010s...in fact I looked at a few dyno charts (some of which were from manufacturers selling aftermarket CAIs) and it seems that most if not all of the gains are from the tune alone. The Ford design seems pretty solid...they managed to pull a few more horses out of the 2010 with their CAI and it actually has kind of a ram-air port that opens to the grill area and forces air directly into the box as opposed to the aftermarket CAIs that have a conical filter sitting open under your hood without anything to direct air into it. Plus, I'm just a skeptic from my 5.0 (the ORIGINAL 5.0) days where you could get more horsepower by adding a K&N, keeping the stock box, and pulling out the factory silencer than installing an aftermarket CAI with a conical filter...for much the same reason; the factory box had air forced into it from under the fender and when you removed the silencer it flowed better than the aftermarket CAIs at the time.

Another point of debate is how much of the CAI improvement gains are from the filter and how much comes from the actual CAI? In other words you can probably get some gains by putting a high flow filter in the stock 2010+ airbox and it's cheaper than buying a new CAI.

Anyway...I'll be getting my AM tune this Friday and am looking forward to see the improvement I get with the addition of a high flow filter but WITHOUT an aftermarket CAI.

So the majority opinion is that throttle bodies don't offer good HP/torque gains and aren't a worthwhile mod?
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 07:02 AM
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I don't like the idea of modding the facory CAI/Box so I am interested in your performance gains with basically just the tune STANGmole. I wasn't planning on a tune either but I have been warming to the idea now that I understand how easy it is to switch back to stock before going to the dealer and switching between the tunes based on intended use.
Old Sep 6, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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For the record, the C&L CAI shroud is designed in such a way as to leave the factory air tube functional with the conical filter. It also maintains the noise tube as well. Chris mentioned in this very thread that the intake does a few HP with the tune (6-7rwhp) and as you stack mods, it makes more and more of a difference. He said something like you'd lose as much as 14rwhp with the stock box when you've done a couple more bolt-ons? IMHO, the intake is worth it, and it sounds cool as hell too. I personally wouldn't have done the tune only, as you're leaving HP on the table AND screwing yourself later as you do more mods. The improvement of sound when I nail it with the intake was worth the money for it, let alone the few extra hp at the wheels.

I agree about re-oiling the filters, its a PITA. My solution is to just buy a new one when I need it. I drive my "weekend toys" so infrequently that this isn't a problem as it doesn't happen often. The last one I replaced was on the JLT CAI on my 07 GT, after I drove through a dust storm in monument valley. The new filter cost me $50, so it wasn't a big deal.

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