Hellion turbo
10-03-2010, 10:01 PM
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Hellion turbo
I have been wanting to get a hellion turbo kit for awhile now. But, Saturday I was at the bowling green NMRA event and stopped at the hellion pit area. I asked a couple questions and and a couple guys didn't seem to care a bit about my questions.Anyone with their kits have any problems with customer service. Also, I looked at John Urist's hellion fox and couldn't believe that none of the hellion cars even run a turbo. All of their cars have vortech blowers. That really made me second guess their kit considering a turbo company won't even use their own products on their cars.
10-04-2010, 01:44 AM
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lol that sucks about not caring about your questions part. They would really hate me then, because I always have a million questions and cover every angle of problems that may, may not or might arise. 
Funny thing about the Vortechs~!
Funny thing about the Vortechs~!
10-04-2010, 02:16 AM
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I've heard some pretty bad stories about their service, It seems to me that they don't care about the install problems and think they make a flawless kit...now, I personally have no experience installing one, i'm just saying I've heard they don't offer much help to customers
....prochargers = better
....prochargers = better
10-04-2010, 02:46 AM
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says a lot about someone's product when the people who manufacture and sell it won't use it on their own cars. Soon as I saw superchargers on their display cars I would have walked away. Especially since they are so hard core turbo sales oriented.
Why would someone want a turbo on a daily driven mustang anyway? Sure, they are capable of more power and torque, and sometimes cheaper, but there are too many negatives to make it worth while.
1. The system takes longer to install than a twin screw.
2. You have to tap your oil pan to feed the turbo.
3. It gets HOT under the hood.
4. Harder to return to stock if you want to remove it, too much cutting and modding.
5. More parts that can fail, blow off valves, waste gates, etc.
6. Turbo lag, not so much on our cars, but still doesn't offer the instant torque like a twin screw.
7. the extra piping in the engine bay can easily look cluttered and ugly in a daily driver.
Those are the main points, and I will never own a built turbo car. I might buy one new built that way, but it would never be my choice to install one.
Why would someone want a turbo on a daily driven mustang anyway? Sure, they are capable of more power and torque, and sometimes cheaper, but there are too many negatives to make it worth while.
1. The system takes longer to install than a twin screw.
2. You have to tap your oil pan to feed the turbo.
3. It gets HOT under the hood.
4. Harder to return to stock if you want to remove it, too much cutting and modding.
5. More parts that can fail, blow off valves, waste gates, etc.
6. Turbo lag, not so much on our cars, but still doesn't offer the instant torque like a twin screw.
7. the extra piping in the engine bay can easily look cluttered and ugly in a daily driver.
Those are the main points, and I will never own a built turbo car. I might buy one new built that way, but it would never be my choice to install one.
Last edited by Unleashedbeast; 10-04-2010 at 02:53 AM.
10-04-2010, 05:18 AM
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says a lot about someone's product when the people who manufacture and sell it won't use it on their own cars. Soon as I saw superchargers on their display cars I would have walked away. Especially since they are so hard core turbo sales oriented.
Why would someone want a turbo on a daily driven mustang anyway? Sure, they are capable of more power and torque, and sometimes cheaper, but there are too many negatives to make it worth while.
1. The system takes longer to install than a twin screw.
2. You have to tap your oil pan to feed the turbo.
3. It gets HOT under the hood.
4. Harder to return to stock if you want to remove it, too much cutting and modding.
5. More parts that can fail, blow off valves, waste gates, etc.
6. Turbo lag, not so much on our cars, but still doesn't offer the instant torque like a twin screw.
7. the extra piping in the engine bay can easily look cluttered and ugly in a daily driver.
Those are the main points, and I will never own a built turbo car. I might buy one new built that way, but it would never be my choice to install one.
Why would someone want a turbo on a daily driven mustang anyway? Sure, they are capable of more power and torque, and sometimes cheaper, but there are too many negatives to make it worth while.
1. The system takes longer to install than a twin screw.
2. You have to tap your oil pan to feed the turbo.
3. It gets HOT under the hood.
4. Harder to return to stock if you want to remove it, too much cutting and modding.
5. More parts that can fail, blow off valves, waste gates, etc.
6. Turbo lag, not so much on our cars, but still doesn't offer the instant torque like a twin screw.
7. the extra piping in the engine bay can easily look cluttered and ugly in a daily driver.
Those are the main points, and I will never own a built turbo car. I might buy one new built that way, but it would never be my choice to install one.
10-04-2010, 06:13 AM
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I have a different view from my individual experience as an owner a built turbo car, and therefore having some actual experience with a turbo system on a heavily built vehicle. Had all sorts of issues over time to be expected with the wear and tear of a dragstrip car, but the turbo system has not been one of them.
1. The system takes longer to install than a twin screw.
I did not do the install myself, but it seemed to go flawlessly. In fact the system has been off and on the car quite a few times (engine rebuild, gutting engine bay etc.) and never any issues
2. You have to tap your oil pan to feed the turbo.
No idea...too technical for me
3. It gets HOT under the hood.
Yes it gets hot under the hood at the strip running low 10s and 135+ mph. When the car was street-driven, no hotter than without the turbo
4. Harder to return to stock if you want to remove it, too much cutting and modding.
Who the hell, returns a heavily FI, track car to stock?
5. More parts that can fail, blow off valves, waste gates, etc.
Engine failed, fuel pumps failed, oil pump failed, other stuff.....never the turbo system
6. Turbo lag, not so much on our cars, but still doesn't offer the instant torque like a twin screw.
Sized properly for street duty, turbo lag is a thing of the past. Sized incorrectly there will be lag... and for strip use, lag is eliminated.
7. the extra piping in the engine bay can easily look cluttered and ugly in a daily driver.
Can hardly see the turbo or piping .
I have a Powerhouse turbo system. I would not buy a Hellion.
1. The system takes longer to install than a twin screw.
I did not do the install myself, but it seemed to go flawlessly. In fact the system has been off and on the car quite a few times (engine rebuild, gutting engine bay etc.) and never any issues
2. You have to tap your oil pan to feed the turbo.
No idea...too technical for me
3. It gets HOT under the hood.
Yes it gets hot under the hood at the strip running low 10s and 135+ mph. When the car was street-driven, no hotter than without the turbo
4. Harder to return to stock if you want to remove it, too much cutting and modding.
Who the hell, returns a heavily FI, track car to stock?
5. More parts that can fail, blow off valves, waste gates, etc.
Engine failed, fuel pumps failed, oil pump failed, other stuff.....never the turbo system
6. Turbo lag, not so much on our cars, but still doesn't offer the instant torque like a twin screw.
Sized properly for street duty, turbo lag is a thing of the past. Sized incorrectly there will be lag... and for strip use, lag is eliminated.
7. the extra piping in the engine bay can easily look cluttered and ugly in a daily driver.
Can hardly see the turbo or piping .
I have a Powerhouse turbo system. I would not buy a Hellion.
Last edited by forensicsteve; 10-04-2010 at 06:24 AM.
10-04-2010, 10:30 AM
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I live with a guy, who has a 2010 GT with a hellion set up. It runs good, no problems to date (about 2 months old). It does loose a little to much boost between gears than I would like to see. Here is the video of the shop building the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH8UOhoxSeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH8UOhoxSeQ
10-04-2010, 12:43 PM
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I have to agree with forensicsteve on this one. The only person I could see that would want to do this, is the guy that wants to sell his/her beat up mustang and rip somebody off saying "nah, never been modified."