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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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So I ordered my tuner today and put in my information for the tunes that I would like, to find out a few minutes later that they can't do it because they can't disable PATS and that I will have to take it to a dyno tuner. So is there another way around PATS to just start the car to make sure it works correctly before I have someone drag it 80 miles to a tuner and does anyone know of reputable dyno tuner shop in the hampton roads area.

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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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I live here in Elizabeth City, and most of the guys in our Mustang club use DTP in Chesapeake VA. I haven't used them personally, but those I know that have used them have only good things to say about them. Here is their link.

http://dtpracing.com/
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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uhm....

wut?

Passive anti-theft system has nothing to do with tuning. It alters the PCM which PATS is tied to, but that is verification to allow the injectors and solenoid to start. Tuning won't touch it. Turn with valid already programmed key, done. This is an SCT tuner?

Perhaps I'm wrong, and this is the reason for the computer code being necessary, but I didn't believe this was being re-flashed. So long as a valid key is used, it should allow bypassing once you put it in the on position for altering.

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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wayne613
uhm....

wut?

Passive anti-theft system has nothing to do with tuning. It alters the PCM which PATS is tied to, but that is verification to allow the injectors and solenoid to start. Tuning won't touch it. Turn with valid already programmed key, done.

I'm doing a v6 to v8 swap so my v6 keys will not start a v8 computer/engine operated car.
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by obxdude018
I'm doing a v6 to v8 swap so my v6 keys will not start a v8 computer/engine operated car.
There we go, now THAT makes sense.

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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:40 PM
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I have always heard they aren't allowed to disable PATS...legally that is.
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Well there has to be someone who writes tunes with the PATS off, since there has been so many v6 to v8 swaps have been done in people's driveways.
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by obxdude018
Well there has to be someone who writes tunes with the PATS off, since there has been so many v6 to v8 swaps have been done in people's driveways.
Check with Blow By Racing.... I know someone who did a 4.0 to 4.6 swap like yourself and he has a tune from them so they must do it...
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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You need to take your car to a ford dealer and have them program your keys and fobs to the PCM. Should be just an hour labor since you already have keys and fobs.
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by danzcool
You need to take your car to a ford dealer and have them program your keys and fobs to the PCM. Should be just an hour labor since you already have keys and fobs.
Yes I already know that, that will be the last thing done with the swap. I want to be able to disable the PATS so I can make sure the engine will fire up and that there is no problems with it first.



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