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Old 05-21-2012, 09:47 PM
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Stock premium wheel tires are 245 45 19's which are are 27.7 inches tall. Brembo brake package wheels are 255/40/19 which are 27.0 inches. These are 255 40 19 and 295 30 20 which are both 27.0 inches tall so it has the same wheel gap as a brembo brake package car would have. If i had 255 45's and 295 35s it would fill out the wheel gap a bit more, but they would be a bit heavier and lower performance.

Im pretty happy with it, definatly not too low, I didnt want to be scraping stuff, and i don think i will be. Still getting used to the much more solid feel of koni yellows and having some decent rebound damping. The front wheels also have some camber despite me not even using camber plates, this is the 2011+ koni sports and stock 2011 strut mounts or w.e.

You can see the front has some camber. They told me they did a "performance alignment".

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How much is too much camber?

Also, my bumps stops are like 1/2 inch from the frame , should i cut them?

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Old 05-22-2012, 12:43 AM
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I think that's fine. My negative camber with H&R Super Sport (1.7"/2.4") and Koni STR.T is horrible. You can just eyeball it and go DAMN THAT'S BAD. The insides of my P-Zero summer tires are nearly bald, so I'm installing MM CC kit to correct that. Yours look about right.

1.) Yes, I would cut the bump stops a bit. The Koni instructions should have stated that in the manual.

2.) How are you using the stock strut mount? Everywhere I've looked says you need at least the GT500 strut mount, which is what I'm currently using. Sam Strano himself told me this personally as well.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:18 AM
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Looks pretty low to begin with lol...much lower than my stock. Prob cuz of your 19's. I was actually looking at the 55D springs...it'll lower my a$$ a little, but won't have to get an alignment.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM

2.) How are you using the stock strut mount? Everywhere I've looked says you need at least the GT500 strut mount, which is what I'm currently using. Sam Strano himself told me this personally as well.
These are the new 2011+ specific koni's

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Looks pretty low to begin with lol...much lower than my stock. Prob cuz of your 19's. I was actually looking at the 55D springs...it'll lower my a$$ a little, but won't have to get an alignment.


fronts are 19's rears are 20's
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Originally Posted by JimmyM
2.) How are you using the stock strut mount? Everywhere I've looked says you need at least the GT500 strut mount, which is what I'm currently using. Sam Strano himself told me this personally as well.
I'm running the same way on my Eibach kit. I've heard (and obviously experienced) that the stock struts are fine with newer kits/struts made specifically for the 10+ models and not using 05-09 specs. Ford installed, no big camber issues to speak of.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:54 AM
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Looks great Andy! I love the staggered look with 19s/20s... of course I am biased with 18s/19s.
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Originally Posted by Andy13186
fronts are 19's rears are 20's
That'll do it. I have "tiny" 18's.
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That's clean! I like it!
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I dig the wheels (especially the color!) and the drop makes it look better, for sure. personal preference = go even lower! : P

I would get some caster/camber plates (MM or Steeda HD), or at least some camber bolts, to get the front closer to spec. when I lowered my car on eibach sportlines, my fronts were 1.9-2.0 negative camber. we used MM c/c plates and dialed it back to neg 1.3 - still performance oriented, but not enough to rip through the tires anytime soon.
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Thanks all
Originally Posted by Entaille
I dig the wheels (especially the color!) and the drop makes it look better, for sure. personal preference = go even lower! : P

I would get some caster/camber plates (MM or Steeda HD), or at least some camber bolts, to get the front closer to spec. when I lowered my car on eibach sportlines, my fronts were 1.9-2.0 negative camber. we used MM c/c plates and dialed it back to neg 1.3 - still performance oriented, but not enough to rip through the tires anytime soon.
Yea i keep going back and forth between thinking its just about perfect height and wanting it a bit lower. I got a new condo recently and i will be scraping the rubber lip thing on the front of the car when pulling into my parking space at this height, so I dont think i will want to go lower. They also said the springs will settle a bit, i only had them on for a few hours in these pics. If you live and park in an area without a large curb , the steeda ultralights are slightly lower than the sports which may look slightly better, and theres other even lower options. Also, if i had bigger sidewalls on my tires, the gap would be smaller. Like i said in the OP, these tires are the same height as brembo tires, other stock size tires are .7 inch taller overall which would make it have .35 inch less fender gap, so thats another option to make it less of a fender gap without scraping stuff.


Have had the chance to drive with these a bit, and im loving the difference. Much more controlled feel, much less rise under accelleration which makes it feel much less sloppy, and much less dive under braking and body roll also. Very happy with the handling changes and its "firmer" than stock but not what i would consider harsh at all.

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