SEAFOAM
 

Has anyone ever used seafoam? How do you like it? How do youpour itinside of your engine?

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Anyone?

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you replace all your oil with a few cans of it:D

j/k
theres a few stickies on here im sure a couple of people will post to help you out (i dont knwo where they are)
also, the can has directions on it
it works wonders

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sry, dbl post

http://www.ppp.org/prod/prods/00-03-...ator-crawl.jpg
:D

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You put a hose in the can and hook the other end to a vacum somewhere close to the throttle body and let it suck it in. Make sure it doesn't suck a lot at one time the car will go dead. Works good though.

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someone is bound to say it so I will beat them to the punch... snake oil

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Search for seafoam by my name. I explained the concept a while back but I can't be bothered to search for something you didn't search for.

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the search button is there just for appearance, didnt you guys know that?

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Its a great product imo but when used in a higher milage engine in the crankcase it can losen things up that probably shouldnt have been losened up which could lead to oil failure. Ultimatly thats exactly what it is suppose to do in the crank case but incase you leave something behind then that isnt too good.

For the gas or intake I think its great, it helps to clean carbon off of all surfaces it meats.

Read the direcections on the can and you should be fine. I let my cars take in 1/3 can. Let it sit for 10 minutes, then start and have a high school dance too with a disco ball because the smoke screen doesnt get any better.

I used it about every 5000 miles for a while and it would get lighter and lighter to finally there wasnt much smoke coming out so I stopped using it because it had done what I wanted it to. That smoke is suppose to be all the carbon buildup coming out.


Anyways thats my personal experiance with SeaFoam, I have used it on 4 cars and never had problems, 2 of them in the crank case.


-Eric-

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heres my video of seamfoam
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...oid=2022300684

to use it, shut of your car... unplug the vacum hose leading to your IAC from your intake, and pour a little in.. have a buddie start the car and keep it alive *keeping foot on gas* while you pour the magic foam in, your car will start to rev by itself if done correctly.. do this until the whole bottle is empty.. This stuf is great IMO.

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Seafoam:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...69/seafoam.gif

Seafoam Deep Creep:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...reep-small.jpg

okay now that you all see what seafoam is, let's talk about what it's used for:

Uses of Seafoam

i would first like to state for the record that seafoam is NOT a power adder. all seafoam does is clean out the gunk inside your engine and injectors. this will do nothing more than restore any horsepower/fuel economy you have lost due to years of dirt and grime inside your engine. any power you pick up along the way is because it has just been supressed by the filthy engine and is now free again.

if you are losing power and mpg due to carbon buildup, if you are experiencing pinging and if you're having trouble passing emissions test, seafoam may be your answer (yes, seafoam will actually reduce your emissions if carbon buildup is causing dirty exhaust fumes!). feeling the pinch at the pump lately? well, seafoam can be used to pick up a few extra mpg you have lost over the years and reduce or elimiate your engine ping by cleaning out your cylinders!

What You Need to Seafoam Your Engine:

in order to maximize your engine's fuel economy and performance, you should do a full engine treatment. in order to do so, you will need a few things:

- 2 cans of seafoam (1st picture above)
- 1 can of seafoam deep creep (2nd picture above)
- flat head screwdriver
- pliers
- 1 long, skinny funnel

okay, now that you have all the necessary tools to complete the job, let's talk about how to use seafoam:

How To Seafoam Your Car:

Part One: Injector Cleaning

this is the easiest part of the process. simply drive to the gas station and completely fill up your tank withcorrect octane gasoline as usual. take 1 of the 2 cans of seafoam in the requirements above. this can of seafoam will be poured directly into your gas tank. now, seafoam makes a great product but they didn't think too hard when they designed their can. you need a funnel in order to dump it into your gas tank. do not try to be cool and try and beat gravity by jamming the can into your gas tank. i tried that. all i got was a car that smelled like gas and wasted seafoam on the ground. take the long skinny funnel, put it in your gas tank, shake the can of seafoam up and pour the entire can of seafoam into the tank. then, take your car for a nice ride so the seafoam swishes and mixes in your gas tank. the seafoam will clean out your injectors nicely. try and run this tank pretty low before filling up so you don't dilute the mixture with more gasoline. this way, you get the maximum cleaning power of seafoam.

Part Two: Cleaning Your Oil System

if your carrequire 5.5 quarts of oil. seafoam is to be added directly into your crankcase in order to cleanse the oil. yes, you heard me, you're pouring a foreign mixture directly into your engine oil. this can be scary for newbies. never fear, seafoam is 100% petroleum. it is as harmful to your engine as water is to your skin - not harmful at all. the correct measurement for seafoam is 1.5 ounces per quart of oil in your crankcrase. simple math tells us:

(1.5) X (5.5) = 8.25 ounces

a can of seafoam is 16 ounces, so for simplicity's sake, we'll add half a can directly into the ENGINE OIL spout. NOTE: i recommend pouring the seafoam into your oil when the car is cold. i would not recommend pouring a room temperature liquid into 200+ degree oil after the car is hot. last thing you wanna do is shock your valve springs.

run the seafoam in your oil for NO MORE THAN 250 miles! seafoam is very agressive. your next oil change will be black as satan's heart and likely thicker than usual. i would not recommend running this oil very long in the car as your oil filter is going to have quite the time on its hands and the oil won't be in the best of shape afterwards. i'll say it again. change your oil less than 250 miles after you put seafoam in your crankcase! i personally recommend running it 100 miles, then changing your oil. that should be plenty for the seafoam to get most of the gunk out.

Part Three: Top End Cleaning

here comes the fun part: cleaning the engine internals! NOTE: park your car in a VERY WELL VENTILATED area for this step as high amounts of toxic fumes will be pouring out of your car.

as you recall, we have half a can of seafoam left. this half a can will be used to clean out your cylinder banks. in order to do this, we need to locate a vacuum line to directly feed the seafoam into the engine. the favorite vacuum line is the brake booster line. for those unfamiliar with the brake booster, here is what it looks like: pic of f-body

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...akebooster.jpg
(sorry for the image quality, it was getting dark and that's the best my cell phone can do http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/images...r_banghead.gif )

the brake booster is the big, black saucer shaped object behind the brake fluid holder against the driver's side firewall in case you can't tell by the picture.

we will be sucking the seafoam into the brake booster hose marked by the red arrow. (note: some people prefer to suck the seafoam in through the PCV line. this is also acceptable, although i have never done it.)

first thing you wanna do is start the car and let it warm up until the engine reaches closed loop. basically, start your car and wait for the engine to warm up to normal operating temperatures (5 - 10 minutes depending on outside temperature). after the engine is nice and warm, turn the car off. now we're going to disengage the brake booster line.

for this, you may need a pair of pliers and a flat head screwdriver. there is a little metal clip holding the brake booster hose to the brake booster. you want to take a pair of pliers, compress the clip and slide it down the hose a few inches. now that the clip is out of the way, you need to disengage the brake booster hose. this can be a bear if you've never done this before. my car had 80,000 miles on it when i seafoamed it and that sucker was stuck on there tight (it's a vacuum line, it's glued by high pressure). you may need to take the flat head screwdriver and jam it into the vacuum line and wiggle it off the brake booster. this may take a while. it took me a lot of pressure to get the hose off the booster. you may have to pull pretty hard.

once the hose is off, you're gonna want to find a small funnel that will fit into the brake booster hose. i do not recommend simply jamming the hose into the seafoam and letting the engine suck it up. this makes it very hard to control the amount being sucked up and could flood the engine far too fast causing it to prematurely stall out.

now that you have a funnel jammed into the brake booster hose, start the car. you'll notice your rpm's are very high, likely around 2000-3000rpms. this is because your brake booster hose being disconnected is causing a massive vacuum leak. you'll be able to feel the engine sucking air down the funnel.

at this point, you have half a can of seafoam left (8 ounces). you should, in your head, divide that into three equal parts. you're going to want to SLOWLY pour the first two thirds of the seafoam left in the can into the engine via the funnel. the engine will start to sputter and choke as you pour in the seafoam. you DO NOT want your engine to stall out. go as slowly as possible pouring the seafoam into the engine as necessary so the engine does not die. do this for the first two thirds of the mixture. with the final third of the seafoam, quickly dump it down into the funnel. the idea here is to stall out the motor, suspending the remaining gulp of seafoam in the cylinder b

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Lets think about what this is supposed to do...

Its supposed to clean the inside of your engine, cleaning "carbon deposits" etc.

Now, you dump it in your oil, fuel, and intake. What exactly does a "cleanser" do? It stops the abilty of particles from clinging to something else.. thats all that soap does.

So your going to stop the abilty of anything the seafoam touches from clinging... what all does that include? How about the oil?I dunno about you, but the last thing I want to do is remove all lubrication off the internal parts of my engine.

I tried this on my DD, on which I keep 100 percent accurate information on MPG etc.. it did nothing. Its not going to help anything, and it could hurt something...w hy use it?

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Seafoam is one of those products you never need to use if you properly maintain your engine,we routinely runour cars to 250k+ miles and I have never had a need to useany intake "cleansing" product like Seafoam. The good news is that when used according to the directions it probably won't hurt anything, but unless your engine issome gunked up ball of crud it probably won't help anything either. [/align][/align]Some folks have messed up various sensors, air valves, etc. by dumping it in to fast and/or by alowing the engine to stall before it's all sucked through. I wouldn't use as some sort of preventative maintenance on anything--I guess itcould serve some purpose if you've inherited or otherwise acquired some POS. [/align]

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problem is... some of us didnt buy our cars new... then the previous owner didn't maintain it like we do...

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I would use it if my car had enough miles to need it. You may gain a few extra mpg and the motor will run smoother

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Sometimes it is, if you don`t put the exact term in a lot of times it comes back with no results. As far as Seafoam goes, if you use that stuff- be prepared for complaints from the neighbors because they wont be able to see two feet in front of them for a two block radius:D

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rob.d - thanks very much for the thorough explanation! now you don't live anywhere near DC and want to ear a few bucks by doing this to my car for me, do you? [sm=nerd.gif]

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Are you having some kind of engine performance problem?
IE:Pinging, knocking, poor performance etc and you have done the usual tuneup already with no luck.

If not.....Seafoam is the absolute LAST thing you want inside your engine.

Using Seafoam is like giving your motor an enema.
Like with humans, if you are sick it might be just the ticket however if you are well, at least for most people,
an enema is the absolute last thing you want.

Your motor thinks the same as you do [8D]

The golden rule is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
Or
Don't put ANYTHING other than fuel, oil, coolant, PS and tranny fluid in your motor.
An occasional bottle of fuel injector cleaner is a good idea though.

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IDK I have kind of thought I had lost some power since I bought the car, but maybe I just got used to the power. ;)

I am not even sure if I can really get any sort of wheel spin in my automatic 02 GT and something tells me that isn't quite right. With nearly 40K miles and I am the 2nd owner perhaps I should give this a whirl.

The big question is how much will I get out of doing step 1 & 2 from rob.d's post? I don't think I want to attempt step 3 by myself but ! &2 sound simple enough. Would I get much out of it or is step 3 the part that gets the majoirty of the junk?

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Good lord, 40k miles is practically new--unless you are having the sort of problems listed by undecided.steve (and by "poor performance" I am sure he meant "piss-poor performance") there is no reason to make your poor Mustang suffer through that...[/align][/align]BTW--Steve, I love the enema analogy that's the perfect description of this stuff...[/align]

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I would love to go to DC,but it ishard to get off of work right now. If there is anything that you need help with just let me know. How about getting one of those MOD to sticky this so people could have easy acess to the info. I have seen it get asked prettyoften.quote]ORIGINAL: TeddyKGB

rob.d - thanks very much for the thorough explanation! now you don't live anywhere near DC and want to ear a few bucks by doing this to my car for me, do you? [sm=nerd.gif]
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Rod thats a great write up but you varried from the directions in a couple area's.
You are not suppose to run Seafoam in your crankcase for any amount of milage, you are suppose to let it idle for the amount of time they specify (10 minutes if memory serves me) and then drain the oil imediatly.
You are also suppose to add the seafoam before you add the gas to the tank because it will mix there.

Seafoam will take away the lubrication properties of oil and cause excessive wear on your engine if you run it for any extended period of time.

Infact I dont recomend the crank case cleaner at all. Removing your pan and inspecting things is about as expensive (Pan gasket) and much more visual than dirty oil.

I will however recomend seafoam for the fuel injector cleaner and valve, runner, chamber cleaner. Seafoam is also a solvant so it is NOT a good idea to run it in your gas tank for more than a week. Your rubber seals will suffer.

There are warnings and precautions on the can to inform you of such things. Seafoam is a great product but its not the one time cure all that some make it out to be. I like it enough to use it once or twice a year.


Overall Seafoam rating IMPO:
Crankcase: *
Fuel Tank:***
Vacuum: *****


-Eric-

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Neo,
No where on the seafoam can does it specify that you let it stay in your car 5 or 10 min. As for mixing of the seafoam with gas it really does not matter if you put in seafoam before your gas fill up or after. Think about all the stop and go traffic. Seafoam will mix just fine trust me. Please before you post up info make sure it is correct. And if you really did use seafoam then please post your experience. I have a hard time believing that seafoam could damage your fuel system in any way as long as you follow the instructions.Onemore thinglets just post facts here and not hear say.Here is some of the exact same info from the seafoam website: SEA FOAM MOTOR TREATMENT for Gas Engine Applications









100% Pure Petroleum
Use in All Engines in All Seasons
2 Cycle, 4 Cycle, and Diesels
Treats 3 Critical Areas: Gas Tank, Fuel Systems, and Crankcase



[ul][*]Cleans fuel injectors[*]Cleans carburetor jets[*]Cleans carbon[*]Stabilizes fuels[*]Upper cylinder lube[*]Removes moisture in fuel[*]De-icer
Frees sticky lifters
Frees sticky rings
Removes moisture in oil
Cleans P.C.V. systems
Cleans catalytic converter odors
Oxygen sensor safe [/ul]
http://www.seafoamsales.com/images/updates_whitecap.gif
How Many Mechanics Use SEA FOAM
In Tune-Up of 4 Cycle Gasoline Carbureted or Fuel Injected Engines
Autos, Trucks, and Tractors
[ol]
With engine warm, slowly pour 1/3 to 1/2 pint through carburetor or throttle body throat. (If vehicle is port injected slowly pour SEA FOAM through direct manifold vacuum line that will feed all cylinders, possible sources are P.C.V. valve or brake booster line.) This will pull SEA FOAM down on top of the pistons and to the back of the intake valves to dissolve carbon. Turn ignition off. Restart engine after 5 minutes. If severe carbon build up is apparent, use more Sea Foam as previously directed. Make sure exhaust is well ventilated when using Sea Foam in these various ways as fumes will be extreme for a short time.
Pour 1/3 to 1/2 pint into oil crank case to clean rings, lifters, dirty parts and remove moisture.
Pour 1/3 to 1 full pint into fuel tank to clean injectors, carburetor jets, fuel lines and remove moisture.
Immediate Results: Smoother idle, increased R.P.M.'s better throttle response and improved performance. See label on can for detailed results for use in each area. [/ol]
FUEL TANK, CARBURETOR, INJECTION and OIL CRANKCASE.
For Peak Performance, Use SEA FOAM Every 2,000 to 5,000 Miles

[ul][*]A 100% pure petroleum product for use in all gasoline and diesel type engines, both 2 and 4 cycle. OXYGEN SENSOR SAFE.[*]Cleans dirty engine parts internally by removing harmful gums, varnish and carbon. WORKS AND PERFORMS INSTANTLY.[*]Removes moisture from oil crankcases and fuel tanks.[*]Stabilizes and conditions fuels. Use for engine storage.[*]Cure hesitations, stalls, pings and rough idle due to carbon buildup.[*]Helps pass emissions test. EPA Registered. [/ul]
When Used Thru Injection or Carburetor

[*]Cleans carbon build up[*]Cleans intake valves and pistons[*]Gives smoother idle[*]Cleans catalytic converter odors[*]Cures hesitations and pings[*]Restores power and pickup[*]With warm engine running, SLOWLY poor 1/2 pint through carburator, throttle body or direct manifold vacuum line that will feed ALL CYLINDERS. Possible sources are P.C.V. valve or brake booster line. Turn ignition off. Restart engine after 5 minutes. Be sure exhaust is well ventilated. Fumes will be extreme for a short period of time.[*]For use in injector cleaning machines, use 50% SEA FOAM and 50% fuel.[*]Fill diesel filters with SEA FOAM to clean injectors fast. [/ul]
When Added to Crankcase (Oil)

[ol][*]Frees sticky lifters and rings[*]Increases R.P.M.'s vacuum and compression[*]Cleans dirty parts[*]Removes moisture[*]Cleans PCV valve systems
[/ol]
One pint treats 10 quarts of oil (avg. 1 1/2 ounce per quart).

When Added to Fuel Tank
[*]Cleans fuel injectors and carburetor jets[*]Cleans carbon as you drive[*]Lubricates upper cylinders[*]De-ices and removes moisture[*]Diesel full conditioner and anti gel[*]Stabilizes fuel [/ul]
One pint treats 8-25 gallons of fuel (average 1 ounce per gallon).

In Injector Cleaning Machines

Add a 50/50 blend of fuel and SEA FOAM into injector cleaning machine. Run directly through the fuel rails to clean injectors fast. Add SEA FOAM to your fuel tank to clean injectors as you drive.

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Yea for the people saying you shouldn't run it through your motors unless there is a problem, you guys are wrong. Yeah I admit I would rather not put it in my crankcase unless I was getting an oilchange right after, but putting in the motor is NOT going to hurt your car. Personally I have a supercharged stang and have you ever seen a torn open motor of a supercharged car? Makes you want to use seafoam!

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Okay, since yet again there's a lot of completely wrong information in this thread, just as with every other Seafoam thread, I'll do what I told you to do before and just re-post my previous post from another thread. I really wish some of you guys wouldn't give information unless you have a clue what you're talking about.

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Ohh and my Landlord just used it in his Toyota Pickup truck and it fixed a slight miss he was having as well as rough ideling.

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Perhaps a horribly dumb question but you really only wind up with a bunch of smoke when putting it via a vacumm tube right? Putting a can in your gas won't cause any billowing smoke will it?

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No, because as I explained, it's much too diluted. You might get a slight hint of smoke every now and then, but unless you put it in an empty tank, you shouldn't get much smoke.

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I have been using Seafoam since 1999 and it says to drain oil immediatly after running 10 minutes in the crank case.

Now I just called Seafoam and spoke with a rep named "Mike" and he said that use to be seafoams old instructions untill 03/04 and were mainly aimed at quick lube shops.

He said that it doesnt change the viscocity of the oil and can be ran untill the oil is changed at the next 3000 marker or whenever you change it. These use to not be the instructions.

The old instructions also said to put the seafoam in the gas first.


I knew something was off about what you were saying, I just didnt know that my experiance with it was with an older product. So dont preach at me about getting my info right because it was right, just for a couple years ago.

Here is the phone number if you would like to talk to them too. Phone (952) 938-4811

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He also said to go EXACTLY by the directions because they have had complaints of people hydrolocking their cars andbending valves because they used too much. A Computer managed car will keep raising the RPM's to compensate for the fluid.

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He said that it will not harm rubber or cork products but that the old instructions did suggest quick consumption of the contents in the fuel tank and he also said that it was impotant to add seafoam first.

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it would be sweet to see 2 of the same milage motors tore down, 1 after seafoam and the other without just to see how well it really works

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I have over a 110,000 miles on my DD and never a problem. As a matter of fact the guy I bought the car from even said the car runs better then when he used to have it.I have always used seafoam in all my cars a have done a few friends car to include my dads truck. I have gotten nothing short of " the throttle response is better, even better gas mileage, and idels smoother. I have already stated follow the direction carefully. A far as hydrolocking goes. It does state on the can and the website to pour it in slowly in the vacuume line so you don't hydrolock your car.

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Neo have a beer and relax. I am not trying to be a D@#k I am just stateing current facts.Someofthe things you stated may have been correct afew years ago. However the infomation is not correct now. Also you have stated that youcould damage partsof the fuel system. Andthat is just not true at all. As long as you follow the directions.All I was trying to do was help outthe orginal poster.As far a putting itin seafoam in the fuel tankbeforeor afteryou put in gas. I think if it was a bigdeal they wouldhave puton the instuctionof the can or the website. It will mix up with the fuel either way.

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All this intrest in seafoam I had to try it out. Well man am i happy i did I didnt think i lost any power over the past 90000 miles but i was dead wrong! I felt a much much better throttle response. when i floored iti used to hear a small ping and thats gone and it feels like i have gained a decent amout of power back. This is right after i did the treatment and a few days later as well.I think the stuff worked Oh yea i maintained my engine reguarly. usual oil changes were about 2300 miles cause im hard on my car lol anyway i like the stuff

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Glad to here good results. Keep them coming guys.

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I seafoamed my Tbird with 116k on it a few months and idled a little smoother. I got alot of freaking smoke when I put it through the vacuum line. I just did the stang yesterday and all I got was a little puff of smoke. Its good to know that there wasn't much carbon in their but dissapointing at the same time.

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This is exactly the kind of problem that products like Seafoam and GM Top Enigne Cleaner are appropriate for.
Mostly carbon build up on valves and pistons.
I would also immediately change my oil and filter after treatment.
That is what GM reccomends for their product, which works very well and gives the smoke show to boot....

However I still would not use any of these things on a regular basis in a motor with no problems no matter what the manufacturer says.

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Yea um an auto gt should be able to spinn ball$ so i would check that out my auto i can spin all day and night.