MGW getting "knotchier"?
08-15-2007, 01:22 AM
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MGW getting "knotchier"?
I've been noticing lately that my MGW has been getting VERY difficult to put into 1st, or any gear for that matter, when at a dead stop, such as a light, while driving...
I'm not sure what causes this, but it's getting to the point where I have to let the tranny spin a little bit before getting into gear. I can force it in, but it sounds soooo horrible and it takes ALOT of push power to do it. When it goes in, it makes a loud "clicking" sound.
Is this normal after 5000 miles with the MGW? I can live with it, just kinda double clutching it in neutral to get the tranny to line up. Is it the dog-teeth, or syncros going bad on my tranny?
Thanks.
I'm not sure what causes this, but it's getting to the point where I have to let the tranny spin a little bit before getting into gear. I can force it in, but it sounds soooo horrible and it takes ALOT of push power to do it. When it goes in, it makes a loud "clicking" sound.
Is this normal after 5000 miles with the MGW? I can live with it, just kinda double clutching it in neutral to get the tranny to line up. Is it the dog-teeth, or syncros going bad on my tranny?
Thanks.
08-15-2007, 02:36 AM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
The shifter is just a lever that manuevers the transmission's shift rail to engage/disengage the appropriate gears--barring any lubrication or binding problems in the fulcrum ball any notchiness or resistance is in the transmission itself. However the shortened throw (decreased mechanical advantage) of the shifter will amplify the required force to overcome these internal resistances.[/align][/align]How much fluid do you have in the tranny? In TSB 04-15-6 Ford recommends using 3.2 qts. (3.0 litres), rather than the original spec of 4 qts. (3.8 litres), in part to reduce hydrolocking of the shift rails to provide improved shift feeland ensure better engagement.[/align]
08-15-2007, 12:33 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
I have no clue how much fluid is in there. I bought the car a year ago to the week, and I never checked the tranny fluid. Where is the plug to check it? Next time I have it on a lift, I'll check to see how much fluid is in there, and possible drain it and put in some Royal Purple Syncromesh. I heard great things about it.
08-15-2007, 12:50 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
I have been running 3.2 qts. of RP Synchromax since just after I got the car last December, some 22k miles. Although when I changed it I did not yet have the MGW shifter there was a noticable improvement in shifting, particularly in the 2-3 upshift.[/align][/align]Keep in mind that any short-shifter is going to require additional effort, that's just plain ol' mechnical advantage taking over--less motion on one end of a lever = more force required to move the other end against the same resistance...[/align]
08-15-2007, 12:54 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
I doubt adjusting the shifter would help. But since it is adjustable, trying to adjust it wouldn't hurt anything.
If that doesn't help, first thing I would do ischange the tranny fluid. This should "soften" up your shifting some, and it should take a lot less effort to get the car in and out of gear.
If that doesn't help at all, then start looking into possible tranny problems. But changing the fluid should help out a lot.
If that doesn't help, first thing I would do ischange the tranny fluid. This should "soften" up your shifting some, and it should take a lot less effort to get the car in and out of gear.
If that doesn't help at all, then start looking into possible tranny problems. But changing the fluid should help out a lot.
08-15-2007, 12:56 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
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I have been running 3.2 qts. of RP Synchromax since just after I got the car last December, some 22k miles. Although when I changed it I did not yet have the MGW shifter there was a noticable improvement in shifting, particularly in the 2-3 upshift.[/align][/align]Keep in mind that any short-shifter is going to require additional effort, that's just plain ol' mechnical advantage taking over--less motion on one end of a lever = more force required to move the other end against the same resistance...[/align]
I have been running 3.2 qts. of RP Synchromax since just after I got the car last December, some 22k miles. Although when I changed it I did not yet have the MGW shifter there was a noticable improvement in shifting, particularly in the 2-3 upshift.[/align][/align]Keep in mind that any short-shifter is going to require additional effort, that's just plain ol' mechnical advantage taking over--less motion on one end of a lever = more force required to move the other end against the same resistance...[/align]
08-15-2007, 01:30 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
ORIGINAL: cliffyk
The shifter is just a lever that manuevers the transmission's shift rail to engage/disengage the appropriate gears--barring any lubrication or binding problems in the fulcrum ball any notchiness or resistance is in the transmission itself. However the shortened throw (decreased mechanical advantage) of the shifter will amplify the required force to overcome these internal resistances.[/align] [/align]How much fluid do you have in the tranny? In TSB 04-15-6 Ford recommends using 3.2 qts. (3.0 litres), rather than the original spec of 4 qts. (3.8 litres), in part to reduce hydrolocking of the shift rails to provide improved shift feel and ensure better engagement.[/align]
The shifter is just a lever that manuevers the transmission's shift rail to engage/disengage the appropriate gears--barring any lubrication or binding problems in the fulcrum ball any notchiness or resistance is in the transmission itself. However the shortened throw (decreased mechanical advantage) of the shifter will amplify the required force to overcome these internal resistances.[/align] [/align]How much fluid do you have in the tranny? In TSB 04-15-6 Ford recommends using 3.2 qts. (3.0 litres), rather than the original spec of 4 qts. (3.8 litres), in part to reduce hydrolocking of the shift rails to provide improved shift feel and ensure better engagement.[/align]
08-15-2007, 02:00 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
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BTW, cliffyk, I returned your PM a few weeks back but never got a response back from you. It still says the status is unread. Just reply whenever you get the chance.
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I have been running 3.2 qts. of RP Synchromax since just after I got the car last December, some 22k miles. Although when I changed it I did not yet have the MGW shifter there was a noticable improvement in shifting, particularly in the 2-3 upshift.[/align][/align]Keep in mind that any short-shifter is going to require additional effort, that's just plain ol' mechnical advantage taking over--less motion on one end of a lever = more force required to move the other end against the same resistance...[/align]
I have been running 3.2 qts. of RP Synchromax since just after I got the car last December, some 22k miles. Although when I changed it I did not yet have the MGW shifter there was a noticable improvement in shifting, particularly in the 2-3 upshift.[/align][/align]Keep in mind that any short-shifter is going to require additional effort, that's just plain ol' mechnical advantage taking over--less motion on one end of a lever = more force required to move the other end against the same resistance...[/align]
08-15-2007, 04:55 PM
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RE: MGW getting "knotchier"?
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The shifter is just a lever that manuevers the transmission's shift rail to engage/disengage the appropriate gears--barring any lubrication or binding problems in the fulcrum ball any notchiness or resistance is in the transmission itself. However the shortened throw (decreased mechanical advantage) of the shifter will amplify the required force to overcome these internal resistances.[/align][/align]How much fluid do you have in the tranny? In TSB 04-15-6 Ford recommends using 3.2 qts. (3.0 litres), rather than the original spec of 4 qts. (3.8 litres), in part to reduce hydrolocking of the shift rails to provide improved shift feeland ensure better engagement.[/align]
The shifter is just a lever that manuevers the transmission's shift rail to engage/disengage the appropriate gears--barring any lubrication or binding problems in the fulcrum ball any notchiness or resistance is in the transmission itself. However the shortened throw (decreased mechanical advantage) of the shifter will amplify the required force to overcome these internal resistances.[/align][/align]How much fluid do you have in the tranny? In TSB 04-15-6 Ford recommends using 3.2 qts. (3.0 litres), rather than the original spec of 4 qts. (3.8 litres), in part to reduce hydrolocking of the shift rails to provide improved shift feeland ensure better engagement.[/align]
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