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i just got my subframes installed today. i knew they'd make a little difference, but wow! i can actually feel a HUGE difference in the way my car rides now. it's so much smoother. soon as i started driving it after i felt it being more smooth and tight. turns were very noticable. get them!!!! i paid $100 for mine, plus a $20 tip for outstanding work on them. he even fixed the sh!tty weld job the other place did on my mufflers.