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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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just gonna throw this out there out of curiosity, ive been researching into the mark viii swap in my 96, I was wondering why people swap PI heads on a 2v rather then doin the lincoln swap?
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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theres no guarantee of the condition of the motor your getting when you buy it. a lot of the mark 8's are higher mileage, when you know the condition of your shortblock, it may be easier to justify just adding the heads than some unknown motors condition.

and it also depends on your overall plans for hte car. it is much easier and cheaper to SC the 2v. i dont even know how you would go about putting a vortech on a markiii, or if they even have brackets and stuff to fit it.

also, i hadn't ever seen anyone actually do the swap before jc316 did it. i remember before he did the swap people were asking all the time how to do it, but no one had ever found a writeup or even knew what was involved.
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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the brackets would be the same as the 98 cobra's, or i would think they would since they were the same motor pretty much ( diff intake and cams)
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MU71L4710N
theres no guarantee of the condition of the motor your getting when you buy it. a lot of the mark 8's are higher mileage, when you know the condition of your shortblock, it may be easier to justify just adding the heads than some unknown motors condition.

and it also depends on your overall plans for hte car. it is much easier and cheaper to SC the 2v. i dont even know how you would go about putting a vortech on a markiii, or if they even have brackets and stuff to fit it.

also, i hadn't ever seen anyone actually do the swap before jc316 did it. i remember before he did the swap people were asking all the time how to do it, but no one had ever found a writeup or even knew what was involved.
i forget who did it but said he got the whole swap from a MarkVIII in a pull it yourself deal for $297 and it was ~$500 with everything said and done, For the supercharging aspect you im pretty sure you get the 96-98 cobra brackets... you may or may not need a 96-98 intake which can be had for ~$300... and you'll pick up more power anyway... The price for the brackets is a few dollars more than for a GT for god knows why but its not like its a whole lot more expensive to supercharge a mark VIII swap over a GT... which i'm not quite sure why you're bringing it up b/c he didn't really ask about it lol.
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Oh well nvm. And I brought it up because I didn't know it would take cobra **** and if it didn't that's something to consider for future plans...

And its jc316 I already put his name n first post.
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Oh well nvm. And I brought it up because I didn't know it would take cobra **** and if it didn't that's something to consider for future plans...

And its jc316 I already put his name n first post.
sounds right, but hes not the only one to do a 4v swap on theeeze b0ards.
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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uberstang did and that guy with the black GT did it but did the head swap instead of the whole motor and did cams too i think..
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SVTeeshirt
sounds right, but hes not the only one to do a 4v swap on theeeze b0ards.
i realize this, i never said he was the first person to do a 4v swap. he was the first person i had ever seen to do the mark viii swap. before he had done his, i had NEVER seen a mark viii dropped into a mustang. i even asked a few years back because a guy in my shop had a mark viii motor he said i could have, but NO ONE had any specific information on what it would take to drop it in, it was all guesses. and there were threads started on an almost daily basis called "will a mark viii motor fit". and nothing useful ever surfaced.

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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A cammed 2V will outrun a MarkVIII swap everytime, been there done that.

The 93-95 Mark heads are junk stock, the 96-98 flow better and have a better valvetrain.

Only the 96-98 Mark intake will fit the Mustang, the earlier the TB is in the firewall.
Old Nov 10, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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i was just wondering, im bidding on a set of windsor pi heads on ebay, looking to do something this winter



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