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cisurfer 05-01-2011 12:36 AM

more o2 sensor codes ugh
 
I used to always throw 1131 and 1151 codes until i got my tune from bama because of my longtubes, this past week i put my new trans in from hanlon motorsports and my front suspension (switch to upr)...today i threw 0133 and 0153, o2 slow response, i had the battery disconnected for 4 days while doing this work to it, today i unplugged the o2s and cleaned them off and plugged them back in...tonight i threw 0153, what is going on here, no wires are crimped or exposed sensors are less than a year old. the only different thing i have done is put my catted midpipe back on and to remove the trans i had to remove the passenger side header which i install tight, but the 0153 is the drivers side, any input? should i load my tune again?

uberstang1 05-01-2011 05:27 AM

No need to reload the tune because it donesn't just fall off the computer so to speak. Have you tried replacing the o2s at all?

cisurfer 05-01-2011 06:17 AM

they are both about 5 months old, for both to throw codes at the same time i highly doubt they are bad and are actually doing their job detecting an actually problem, what causes this to happen?

cisurfer 05-03-2011 10:26 AM

I swapped the o2 sensors from left to right. Cleared codes. P0153 came back. Only thing I did was replace transmission and added my catted midpipe instead of my offroad h

cliffyk 05-03-2011 04:19 PM

Exhaust leak(s) near the O2 sensor can cause those codes...

cisurfer 05-03-2011 11:16 PM

What about exhaust leaks like 2 inches after the sensor at the collector?

cisurfer 05-04-2011 12:12 AM

would having a tune for LT headers and o/r mid cause this to happen when putting a catted mid on?

cliffyk 05-04-2011 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by cisurfer (Post 7532362)
What about exhaust leaks like 2 inches after the sensor at the collector?

I think that falls neatly into the "Exhaust leak(s) near the O2 sensor..." category.


would having a tune for LT headers and o/r mid cause this to happen when putting a catted mid on?
It could, however the exhaust leak needs to be fixed first.

The exhaust flow is not one homogeneous stream, but rather a series of pulses created by each exhaust event. These pulses have a head, body, and tail; each with different characteristic, with their pressure relative to the outside world being the most significant.
  • The head is at a pressure higher than ambient, when it passes the "leak" the gas flows out into the world; but the chemical composition of the gas in the pipe remains unchanged;
  • The body is at or close to ambient pressure. When it passes the leak nothing happens as it and the ambient pressure are nearly the same--the chemical make-up of the gas in the pipe remains unchanged;
  • The tail is at less than ambient pressure (nearly a complete vacuum), and when it passes by the leak it sucks in ambient air--changing the exhaust gas chemical composition and making it appear "leaner" to the O2 sensor;

This is why the leak makes the PCM believe the mix is lean, a big or close enough leak can cause the sensor response to slow or even appear "stuck".

cisurfer 05-04-2011 10:37 AM

ok there was a leak, which i fixed, ill try it again though, but like i said the only thing i did was change mid pipes really

cisurfer 05-04-2011 11:37 PM

i pulled the code again tonight, with new o2 sensors and got a p0133, if i have an exhaust leak how does it switch from side to side, one time its 0133 then the next its 0153


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