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Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
Hey guys im starting to wind down on my modding for my car with only the TB, plenum and then cams being left. I want to be able to get to 280 RWHP. Would the stage one cams allow me to do this? or would i have to jump up to the Stage 2's with springs? Do you guys think 280RWHP is attainable with cams and the mods i have listed? thanks guys:D
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RE: Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
Have you had a dyno run before and if so, what did you put down?
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no i havent had it dynoed at all because after i install the TB,plenum, and then cams then i'll have it dyno'ed do to that fact that the closest dynojet to me is like 4 hours away down in Memphis, tennessee. The shop is dynospeedshop
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RE: Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
I think you should get the stage 2's and go on ahead and get a p&p or extrude hone. You obviously spared no expense modding it so far. With some injectors, fuel pump and dyno tuning...you could be well over your goal.
Question: Do you have to remove the heads to do valvetrain on a mustang?? I know you do on Hondas, I hated that. |
RE: Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
btw, there is a few dyno shops in nashville one at a mustang only shop caled delk performance near nashville might be a little closer i duno though
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oh nm i thought it said you are from memphis sorry
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well i already have a walbro 255 lph pump in my tank so thats not a problem there.
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ORIGINAL: bearster18 well i already have a walbro 255 lph pump in my tank so thats not a problem there. |
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oh great thta makes me feel 100% better...lol
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Well, if you really want VT's (which I highly recommend), call VT, ask for Scott (tell him Mitch told ya to call, he will take good care of ya), tell him what you are looking for and let him suggest your best options. He might be able to do you some custom grinds, that are tailored to your exact needs and wants.
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yeah i want VT bar none. I want something that will help spend my car to 6000RPMS instead of falling on its face.
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Hey man, where are you from? Im from West Tn, and ive had my car on the dyno at Dynospeed. Jon and Joe are really good guys. They know alot about stangs! they will do you right. Make sure you let them put an SCT tune on your baby!
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im from Mtn home Arkansas which is in the north central part of arkansas almost on the border of missouri. I didnt know much about dynospeed at first but after looking threw some magazines i see that they tune on some of the fast mustangs in the country.
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I emailed VT, and told them I really didnt wont to rev much over 6000rpms and didnt wont to change the springs if I really dont have to. They suggested the stage ones. I have a post over at modulardepot.com asking about sound clips on the stage 1s. They sound really good, But not as choppy as the stage twos.
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ive thought about just going with the stage 1's and adding a nitrous kit and with the full bolt on's with those cams and 100 shot that would put me pretty close to the limit of the motor in terms of durability. How much RWHP should stage 1 cams net?
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I think about 15 to 20. Thats the idea I had about the cams and nitrous. I have a shortblock with damaged pistons that came out of my car I was going to forge it and spray a 150 shot.
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thats cool. I just read on another board that a guy installed the stage 1's and gain 22 RWHP WITHOUT a tune. thats pretty damn good if I say so myself.
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Wow! Without a tune, that is pretty good. Cams are pretty unpredictable like that though.
As far as Walboro pumps: I have used them in 2 different cars with minimal problems. One used to keep falling off into the tank, but no fire issues. I haven't heard of anything like that either. |
RE: Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
well the VT site claims 85 hp with the stage 2s so youd probably be seeing about closer to 40 rwhp -double the stage 1s. i would definitely get the stage 2s and skip the nitrous just on principle; your car would be so much tougher with some big bad a$$ stage 2 cams than it would be with a wimpy little baby bottle[:'(]
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a stage 2 cam on a stock shortblock is not a good idea. you will only get the real benefits of it after you get way back in the rpm band. so say like like 5800-6000. and a stock 4.6 redlines at 6k. by the way if you have any stage 1 sounds clips then please send them my way cause im thinkin about goin PI and VT's stage 1 cams. thanks
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Actually, the stg 2's make power in excess of 6500 rpm. Yes in order to rev there safely in a 2v you will need to rebuild your bottom end, but you can still see hella gains between 3k-6k rpm with just valvesprings.
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What about some Alum Patriot heads and stage II cams?I talked to Nossy and he said that combo will give ya 80rwhp. The built heads are $1699.
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well im still confused about which to get im really leaning toward the stage 2's cause I have decided AGAINST using nitrous IM not suitable to handle it. i would prolly blow myself up with it lol.. I just want the car to pull to 6k but still be making power. So the stage 2's fit thta better than the stage 1's. I know i will lose low end torque with the stage 2's but thats why i have 4.30's in the rear of the car so that takes care of that.
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RE: Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
ORIGINAL: bearster18 well im still confused about which to get im really leaning toward the stage 2's cause I have decided AGAINST using nitrous IM not suitable to handle it. i would prolly blow myself up with it lol.. I just want the car to pull to 6k but still be making power. So the stage 2's fit thta better than the stage 1's. I know i will lose low end torque with the stage 2's but thats why i have 4.30's in the rear of the car so that takes care of that. For a stock bottom end motor, go with the Stage 1's. There is a guy on the Mustang board, I am a Moderator on that has the Stage 1's and he loves them. He has a sound clip with open long tubes...let me see if I can find it. |
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Here ya go. He made 274RWHP and 292RWTQ, before long tubes and UD pulleys....
http://media.putfile.com/VT-stg-1s-W-open-LTs |
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hey thanks man well i already have the LT's and the underdrives so that looks good for me.
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That thing sounded good, do you have a sound clip of your mustang code3?
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ORIGINAL: blackbetty01 That thing sounded good, do you have a sound clip of your mustang code3? |
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Wow it sounds like it has a really bad miss, no wonder why it is taking two weeks to get it tune. J/K, I wish my Mustang would 'miss' like that.
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ORIGINAL: blackbetty01 Wow it sounds like it has a really bad miss, no wonder why it is taking two weeks to get it tune. J/K, I wish my Mustang would 'miss' like that. |
RE: Should i get the Stage 1 or Stage 2 VT cams?
hey man what cams do you have in your car? Are they stage 2's?
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ORIGINAL: bearster18 hey man what cams do you have in your car? Are they stage 2's? |
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man i love the sound of that car. I wish mine would do thta kinda thing. lol
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ORIGINAL: bearster18 man i love the sound of that car. I wish mine would do thta kinda thing. lol |
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its time to rob a bank and get a set of stage 2 cams with P+p heads. lol with a forged bottom end
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How much would a forged bottom end cost, and how much power could it hold?
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ORIGINAL: 03sonicgt How much would a forged bottom end cost, and how much power could it hold? |
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ORIGINAL: code3GT ORIGINAL: bearster18 hey man what cams do you have in your car? Are they stage 2's? |
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ORIGINAL: GSXRIntensity ORIGINAL: code3GT ORIGINAL: bearster18 hey man what cams do you have in your car? Are they stage 2's? exhaust duration 284 and .601 lift |
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