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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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if u want the best get mgw
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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If you want cheap get MGW.

If you want the best get a Pro 5.0.
The Pro 5.0 is cheaper than the MGW.
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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I had a mgw on my GT and it was great. I drove my buddy's stang with a pro 5.0 and it really didn't feel much different. If you go with a mgw, steeda , or pro 5.0 you will be happy, all three are way better than stock.
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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If you want cheap get MGW.

If you want the best get a Pro 5.0.
The Pro 5.0 is cheaper than the MGW.
If you say so. A quick search tells me otherwise.
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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Buzz is right, they raised theMSRP of the Pro 5.0 by $40 recently from $170 to $210--that makes the MGW an even better deal...[/align][/align]I have held an MGW side-by-side with a Pro 5.0 (and driven cars with both, and a Steeda). Fromengineering, choice of materials, and quality of manufacturing perspectives the MGW is a hands-down winner--it makes the Pro 5.0 look like something someone made in their garage (OK, so that's a bit of an exaggeration, but the MGW is a thing of beauty). [/align][/align]The Steeda Tri-Ax issimilarly designed and constructed (as the 5.0)--they are bothre-engineered versions of the OEMdesign, including the cross-bolted lever that reminds me of some component of a 3-pointhitch on a tractor. The MGW is a completely new design sharing only functionality with the OEM unit.[/align][/align]From a performance perspective the 5.0 and Tri-Ax both do a good job.They require less effort than the MGW, particularly when going in to 5th or reverse,which may be entirely a function of the shift lever and throw being a bit longer. However, I also foundthem bothto be less precise especially in the 2-3 upshift--this because of their lesser strength centering springs. MGW has the strongest centering springs of the bunch, which makes it a bit "stiffer" than the others.[/align][/align]Some have complained of "notchiness" with the MGW, however this has nothing to do with the shifter other than that the MGW is the shortest throw unit out there (and can be easily made shorter by lopping 1/2" or more off the **** stud). [/align][/align]Notchiness comes from the shift rod detents in the tranny,and the 3650 has some pretty stiff detents (as does the MiataBTW, which is generally considered to be a benchmark in mass-produced sports car shifters).The basics of mechanical advantage dictate that shorter throw = higher required force to shift the transmission, this also amplifies the detent action which equals more "notchiness". The short throw of the MGW also amplifies the tension of its stronger centering springs.[/align][/align]I.e., the MGW requires more shifting effort than either the Pro 5.0 or Steeda Tri-Ax--there, I've said it...[/align][/align]Nonetheless I, and the many other MGW enthusiasts who have added to this thread, who don't seem to be limp-wristed pansies (sorry I had to throw that in), don't find this at all bothersome--some folks do, and for those people I would recommend the Pro 5.0 or Tri-Ax.[/align][/align]The Tri-Ax is the "el-cheapo" now at $170, the Pro 5.0 is overpriced at $210. IMHO the MGWat $180 is the best of the bunch--IF you are looking for the shortest throw, which unfortuantely also means the highest shifting effort (although you can extend the **** stud and get the best of both worlds--I made an extension and played with this)...[/align][/align][/align]
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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I have an MGW shifter, and I wouldn't put anything else in my stang....go with the MGW!
Old Jun 19, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Yawn....

I think anyone who keeps having to hype a product in this manner tell me there is alot of limp wristed pansies that use MGW... Hmmmmm

ORIGINAL: cliffyk

Buzz is right, they raised theMSRP of the Pro 5.0 by $40 recently from $170 to $210--that makes the MGW an even better deal...[/align][/align]I have held an MGW side-by-side with a Pro 5.0 (and driven cars with both, and a Steeda). Fromengineering, choice of materials, and quality of manufacturing perspectives the MGW is a hands-down winner--it makes the Pro 5.0 look like something someone made in their garage (OK, so that's a bit of an exaggeration, but the MGW is a thing of beauty). [/align][/align]The Steeda Tri-Ax issimilarly designed and constructed (as the 5.0)--they are bothre-engineered versions of the OEMdesign, including the cross-bolted lever that reminds me of some component of a 3-pointhitch on a tractor. The MGW is a completely new design sharing only functionality with the OEM unit.[/align][/align]From a performance perspective the 5.0 and Tri-Ax both do a good job.They require less effort than the MGW, particularly when going in to 5th or reverse,which may be entirely a function of the shift lever and throw being a bit longer. However, I also foundthem bothto be less precise especially in the 2-3 upshift--this because of their lesser strength centering springs. MGW has the strongest centering springs of the bunch, which makes it a bit "stiffer" than the others.[/align][/align]Some have complained of "notchiness" with the MGW, however this has nothing to do with the shifter other than that the MGW is the shortest throw unit out there (and can be easily made shorter by lopping 1/2" or more off the **** stud). [/align][/align]Notchiness comes from the shift rod detents in the tranny,and the 3650 has some pretty stiff detents (as does the MiataBTW, which is generally considered to be a benchmark in mass-produced sports car shifters).The basics of mechanical advantage dictate that shorter throw = higher required force to shift the transmission, this also amplifies the detent action which equals more "notchiness". The short throw of the MGW also amplifies the tension of its stronger centering springs.[/align][/align]I.e., the MGW requires more shifting effort than either the Pro 5.0 or Steeda Tri-Ax--there, I've said it...[/align][/align]Nonetheless I, and the many other MGW enthusiasts who have added to this thread, who don't seem to be limp-wristed pansies (sorry I had to throw that in), don't find this at all bothersome--some folks do, and for those people I would recommend the Pro 5.0 or Tri-Ax.[/align][/align]The Tri-Ax is the "el-cheapo" now at $170, the Pro 5.0 is overpriced at $210. IMHO the MGWat $180 is the best of the bunch--IF you are looking for the shortest throw, which unfortuantely also means the highest shifting effort (although you can extend the **** stud and get the best of both worlds--I made an extension and played with this)...[/align][/align][/align]
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