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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 97stanger
Back when I had my turbo'd lt1 I had to get it in 3 different tuners hands and it seemed each tuner had different beliefs and ways of tuning it.
That to me just tells me the tuners you took your car to are idiots. Dialing in the MAF and adjusting timing will be the same no matter who tunes it.
Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 97stanger
Also way more inconsistent than my blower setup ever was
So from one personal situation you conclude turbos are less consistent and harder to tune? Sounds like you need to learn how cars are tuned before you can make statements like that.
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 05:14 AM
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Thats all it took, is a personal experience. From personally owning a turbo'd car I wouldnt own one again. It was a nightmare, was in the shop more than on the road. Just because people don't like the setup that you are running dont get all offended. I have owned a turbo setup, and currently own a centri blower setup and a ls1 nitrous setup. All have built the motors in my own garage, so I think I know a good deal about motors my man
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 97stanger
^ they are a little more difficult to tune than other setups, but power per psi and tq is insaneeeeee
And read what I ****ing typed bro, they are a LITTLE more difficult to tune. Well yeah, they are. I never said they cant be tuned properly, are a nightmare, yada yada. THEY ARE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO TUNE.
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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Lol,

a centri setup is so much easier to setup and get running than a turbo setup, in every way.
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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I don't see the argument is, it clearly is
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by justinschmidt1
Lol,

a centri setup is so much easier to setup and get running than a turbo setup, in every way.
He said tune, not setup.
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 97stanger
Thats all it took, is a personal experience. From personally owning a turbo'd car I wouldnt own one again. It was a nightmare, was in the shop more than on the road. Just because people don't like the setup that you are running dont get all offended. I have owned a turbo setup, and currently own a centri blower setup and a ls1 nitrous setup. All have built the motors in my own garage, so I think I know a good deal about motors my man
Your "nightmare" situation isn't the case for every turbo setup. If it was no one would own them. Yes, there's more to a turbo install then a centri install I'm not arguing that.

You never did answer how a turbo is more difficult to tune. If you're basing that statement off your one unfortunate situation then I'm sorry but that's how people become misinformed and start spreading rumors that aren't true.

And when I say tuning I'm talking having everything installed correctly and running mechanically correct.
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WannaBeGearHead
He said tune, not setup.
I am including tune as part of the overall setup, after all, you can not run either without a tune correct?

Turbos can be more difficult to tune than a supercharger.

The reason being, that the boost level is difficult to correlate with other engine conditions.

Whereas with a supercharger, the boost level should be VERY predictable as a function of throttle position and rpm.

Therefore, the conditions are more consistent with a SC and SHOULD be easier to tune.

No need to start a war over this, I thought it was pretty common knowledge that a turbo can be more difficult to tune than a SC?

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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Again, this isnt misinformation that I have read over the internet. It is my own personal experience. I thought the same thing justin said, when boost is coorelated off of exhaust and other engine conditions, and a blower is based off of rpms it seems 100% easier to tune. Have you you personally owned both? Or are you a sole turbo owner trying to defend what you only own?



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