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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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cause he dosen't have forged internals, he could run more with an overdrive pulley.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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that gives me intercooler piping ideas...i've already got a bunch of conduit but the bends aren't hard enough. might have to look into vato zone exhaust pipes. the front mount is nice, but there's too much piping so i want to try and hang an intercooler behind the radiator.
Been running exhaust tubing for intercooler. Since found out blk plastic doesn't work. Black plastic does make a cheap material to get desired routing of pipe. A mandrel bent "u" bend works out good. You can cut it to the desired angle. Then weld bead on end and tubing won't come off.Bought three "u" bends I think somewhere around 16 dollars each and only used two. I thought the supercharge was good idea long ago. But read deeper into his article. He compares its power to a stock v-8 or mild v-8. You can get turbo past that easy. And he mention problem metering the air since add intercooler. I personnelly don't think a turbo head would take sustained boost all the time like from a supercharger. The turbo heads crack from just the boost from turbo. Jugador. An idea why not use a 60's model mustang v-8 radiator they are narrower. Read they will fit MGB between frame rails. Mount to one side. Then intercooler could be to the other side. Both in and out at top. Should make the piping extremly short with good airflow to it also. Could us87/88 turbocoupe fan system {2 fans} to draw air thru both. Safety watch it planning on welding on electrical conduit it is galvanized.Welding on it would create toxic fumes.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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well i have a problem with the car dying and having trouble restarting after it's up to temp and i think it's mostly due to the air not being able to move through the intercooler pipes when theres no boost. i'm not all that concerned with having the lowest air temperatures because there is so much heat generated from the exhaust and with a dual plug intake you're pretty much screwed because the intake is hard to mess with (some people cut off the top and put a 4.6 mustang plenum on it to rotate it but thats too much work and i cant get anyone to weld aluminum for me anyway). not to mention it's pretty easy to route some sort of duct to get air from the front end where i want it. i've cut galvanized before so i know the fumes are pretty nasty but thanks for the warning.

old mustang radiator may work, i like that idea but id rather not buy a new one (unless mine screws up or something). it would definately shorten the pipes and i don't even think i'd need a fan behind it, just a little heat shield from the radiator maybe. my main problem with this car is that my turbo is retarded (external wastegate is mounted on the turbine housing and i dont like how he did the compressor outlet on it). i don't want to go buying a new turbo, exhaust (it's cracked as **** behind the turbo because of faulty hangers), redo all the piping, and still be slow. my exhaust is made for an external gate so i can't cheaply switch turbos and if i do, i won't have anywhere to put the wastegate. i guess what i'm getting at is if i could redo all this stuff for really cheap i'd do it, if not then i might as well save my pennies for a real engine (2.3t or 5.0 swap). hence doing minor **** like shortening up intercooler piping with free conduit i found and only needing to buy couplers.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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yeah jug, alluminum is one of the hardest metals to weld due to its high melting point.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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well theres a guy at work that welds aluminum but i don't think he'd do it for free and i can't pull plenums out of my *** so that would get costly real quick. i dont see him very often either because he's not actually a full time employee, he just sends an invoice to the company for his services when we need him.



not to mention all the welders at the shop are set up for welding steel not aluminum
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Jugador. looked on e-bay. Good prices on alumiun radiator. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1964-...QQcmdZViewItem
You mention get up to temp. Won't start. Is getting too hot. Or is this nature of dual plug boosted. If so find a single plug head and convert would solve intake problem also. My intercooler lines quiet long also. One goes into fender area. Have had no problems. Think maybe coil pack getting too hot and quiting or maybe ignition module. Run it up hot. And use bag of ice to cool and see if ok now. Or maybe use CO-2 if have access to it. Thought I would add my 2 cents worth.
Old Jan 6, 2008 | 11:41 PM
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hmm wonder about the integrity of the welds, but those look like a good deal for aluminum. as for the reluctance to start, it could be the starter, ignition, maybe even the intercooler piping. i think i might need new coil packs, i've read i can use the ones off 4.6 mustangs. the tach still doesn't work even after i put on a used ignition control module that was supposed to be from a functional mustang. i also bought a transmission from that guy so now i've got to find a clutch before i can put it in. you guys know of any particularly good deals for a clutch kit online? it's hard to get motivated with the car because so much is wacked out right now but if i buy a clutch i'm committed to getting it moving so that's a step in the right direction.

damn i really hijacked this thread.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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yeah u can use the ones from a 4.6 or a 5.4, but i don't remember the firing order of them. you would have to get a diagram from a service manual or something.
Old Jan 7, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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dude a centrifugal would be soooooo much easier to hook up, like unbelievably
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