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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:36 AM
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well i will be having the motor balanced, so is it safe to run to 65-6800 with out rev kit. and if no one has heard of it goto afr's web page.

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wrong wrong wrong, the only thing right u said is about a stock motor not pulling much more than 4800 which is very true. But a 302 making power to 7k and more is very real, i see it very often. u can make a 302 rev 10k its not a problem. but you would not want to do that with a stock block. how high a motor revs has everything thing to do with the cam. you can have a balanced motor run 5k or 7k+ but it depends on the cam.


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why do u want to rev ur engine to 7k?

u realise the 302 makes ZERO power past 4800 rpm's

reving to 7k will just make u slower.. its not a vtec is a v8

Ok, I see the rev kit you are talking about.. It's a different design for valve springs, but unless you are running a BIG cam and some crazy RPM's it's not needed... Just get a decent set of valve springs on whatever heads you are installing on you car and you'll be fine... My frined Kris has a 93 stock bottom end, AFR heads, Anderson Custom grind cam, and a holly systemax intake... He revs it to 6800RPMS, with 18lbs of boost through a Vortech S-Trim, and he has no problems with valve float... Just becasue a company says one of their products are a good idea, dosn't mean you should take their word for it... You should really talk with a reputable machine shop so they can point you in the right direction, but I definetly wouldn't wory about it for your application.... Good luck either way...
Old May 21, 2006 | 03:39 AM
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does he have the roller set up. that is what its for. roller lifters have a tendencie at high rpms to throw the lifter and cause valve float
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ORIGINAL: pitman86gt

well i will be having the motor balanced, so is it safe to run to 65-6800 with out rev kit. and if no one has heard of it goto afr's web page.

ORIGINAL: Tims 88GT

wrong wrong wrong, the only thing right u said is about a stock motor not pulling much more than 4800 which is very true. But a 302 making power to 7k and more is very real, i see it very often. u can make a 302 rev 10k its not a problem. but you would not want to do that with a stock block. how high a motor revs has everything thing to do with the cam. you can have a balanced motor run 5k or 7k+ but it depends on the cam.


ORIGINAL: lookinforastang

why do u want to rev ur engine to 7k?

u realise the 302 makes ZERO power past 4800 rpm's

reving to 7k will just make u slower.. its not a vtec is a v8

Ok, I see the rev kit you are talking about.. It's a different design for valve springs, but unless you are running a BIG cam and some crazy RPM's it's not needed... Just get a decent set of valve springs on whatever heads you are installing on you car and you'll be fine... My frined Kris has a 93 stock bottom end, AFR heads, Anderson Custom grind cam, and a holly systemax intake... He revs it to 6800RPMS, with 18lbs of boost through a Vortech S-Trim, and he has no problems with valve float... Just becasue a company says one of their products are a good idea, dosn't mean you should take their word for it... You should really talk with a reputable machine shop so they can point you in the right direction, but I definetly wouldn't wory about it for your application.... Good luck either way...
Old May 21, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: pitman86gt

does he have the roller set up. that is what its for. roller lifters have a tendencie at high rpms to throw the lifter and cause valve float
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ORIGINAL: pitman86gt

well i will be having the motor balanced, so is it safe to run to 65-6800 with out rev kit. and if no one has heard of it goto afr's web page.

ORIGINAL: Tims 88GT

wrong wrong wrong, the only thing right u said is about a stock motor not pulling much more than 4800 which is very true. But a 302 making power to 7k and more is very real, i see it very often. u can make a 302 rev 10k its not a problem. but you would not want to do that with a stock block. how high a motor revs has everything thing to do with the cam. you can have a balanced motor run 5k or 7k+ but it depends on the cam.


ORIGINAL: lookinforastang

why do u want to rev ur engine to 7k?

u realise the 302 makes ZERO power past 4800 rpm's

reving to 7k will just make u slower.. its not a vtec is a v8

Ok, I see the rev kit you are talking about.. It's a different design for valve springs, but unless you are running a BIG cam and some crazy RPM's it's not needed... Just get a decent set of valve springs on whatever heads you are installing on you car and you'll be fine... My frined Kris has a 93 stock bottom end, AFR heads, Anderson Custom grind cam, and a holly systemax intake... He revs it to 6800RPMS, with 18lbs of boost through a Vortech S-Trim, and he has no problems with valve float... Just becasue a company says one of their products are a good idea, dosn't mean you should take their word for it... You should really talk with a reputable machine shop so they can point you in the right direction, but I definetly wouldn't wory about it for your application.... Good luck either way...
Roller cams and especially hydraulic rollers do NOT have a tendency to float. Heres the deal, rev kits are old school chevy products back before solid rollers and hydraulic rollers were being used. Solid mechanical cams have tendency to float with accelerated ramp speeds on todays agressive cam profiles. Hydraulic and solid rollers are the exact opposite. They can and do control accelerated ramp speeds much better than solids ever did. Anytime you hear rev kit I can guarantee you are talking to a chevy guy, run and run fast, your guy his blowing smoke up your azz
Old May 21, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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Stop reading AFR's page about valve float, roller lifters don't have big issues with it, or people wouldn't use them... Trust me, I've never seen these Rev Kits on a car, and I know of cars running all the way from 15's to 8's... I've been involved in alot of different builds, so I'm not some 15 year old trying to tell you something I know nothing about.... Good luck
Old May 21, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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ok like i said the guy doing the build is old school chevy. he has a 8 sec car, but has admited he is new to ford stuff, but is happy to learn. hell he told me to get online and see what i could find out. he is a solid cam kind of guy. if you all say its cool then i will go with it. im just checking like he asked me too. he doesnt want to rev like 7k and mess **** up. he didnt know for sure what they could rev to safely. now after doing some research i have read 7k is fine.
Old May 21, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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ok like i said the guy doing the build is old school chevy. he has a 8 sec car, but has admited he is new to ford stuff, but is happy to learn. hell he told me to get online and see what i could find out. he is a solid cam kind of guy. if you all say its cool then i will go with it. im just checking like he asked me too. he doesnt want to rev like 7k and mess **** up. he didnt know for sure what they could rev to safely. now after doing some research i have read 7k is fine.
rpm will have its limiting factors, cam and heads is where it all stops, and whatever cam your gonna run will dictate what spring you use.
Old May 21, 2006 | 04:15 AM
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well basicly a set of 190cc canfield heads and tfs stage 3 cam..
224/232 lift at .050
.574/595 lift
operating range 3200 to 6800
110 degrees seperation
Old May 21, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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what do u want to do with the car?
Old May 21, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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I know I'll be running my 347 to 7000. Well that's where it'll be rev limited anyway. More like 6500-6800. My cam will stop making power at 6500.

I upgraded my valve springs in my AFRs because my cam maxes out the springs that come with the 185s...

It's balanced and forged, so it'll take it.

And My friend has a 306 that revs to 7800RPM, so don't tell me that a 302 won't do any good past 7000 cause he's doing it and making power there, with a stock block.
Old May 21, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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