Strange starting problem?
#1
Strange starting problem?
Here's the deal - the car is a '92 GT 5 speed. When I have a fully charged battery, I turn the key and there is a clicking, almost hammering for several seconds before the starter finally engauges and starts spinning the engine. Then the car will start and run fine.
I have replaced the solenoid on the fender. Twice. I have replaced the starter. I have replaced all of the related cables - 2 gauge from the solenoid to the starter, 4 gauge from the battery to the solenoid.
Is there another relay somewhere that I'm missing? Everything I've been able to find in past posts refers to the solenoid that I've already replaced.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
I have replaced the solenoid on the fender. Twice. I have replaced the starter. I have replaced all of the related cables - 2 gauge from the solenoid to the starter, 4 gauge from the battery to the solenoid.
Is there another relay somewhere that I'm missing? Everything I've been able to find in past posts refers to the solenoid that I've already replaced.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
#2
RE: Strange starting problem?
Have you checked your grounds? If where your ground cable grounds to is lose or corroded it will cause those symptoms. Once the car is running. It might be running off of the alternator and whatever juice is in the battery. I'd check the ground on the battery post and on the frame end.
#5
RE: Strange starting problem?
I replaced the battery cable at the same time I replaced the starter feed. It's a new 4 gauge battery cable, new terminal, etc. I also replaced the cable to the block.
Not saying it's not ground, just saying it's already been replaced.
Not saying it's not ground, just saying it's already been replaced.
#6
RE: Strange starting problem?
ORIGINAL: mjr46
scuff the surface where the grounds or cables bolt to.....corrosion/ dirty or bad connections may be the culprit
scuff the surface where the grounds or cables bolt to.....corrosion/ dirty or bad connections may be the culprit
That's the biggie though. Even though the cables are replaced they might not be getting a good connection. Most of the time in this situation it's never the cable, but the connection at the end of it isn't strong enough.
#7
RE: Strange starting problem?
If you're sure of the grounds being clean... You could take the starter off and leave the wires on it and try to turn over the ignition. To check and see if the starter does it without a load on it. On chevys you have to sometimes shim the starter housing. So that the starter gear meshes with the flywheel/flexplate.
I don't think ford starters need to be shimed?But if it doesn't act up without a load. Then your starter gear could be getting in a bind.
And now for more questions....
Does it do it everytime? Or only when it's hot? And do your headlights dim when you put an electrical load (turn on the heater,stereo,rear defroster)on the car while running?
If it does it all the time... Could be... grounding problem,defective solenoid, starter gear binding, or seizing starter.
When the cars hot.... could be... defective starter, or solenoid.
If your headlights dim.... almost definately a cable problem. Because your cars running off of the altenator.
I'd go to an autoparts store that test charging systems. They can load test the battery and charging system. It might shed some light on if there's a problem elsewhere than what you've replaced.
And finally..... Don't forget..... Just because you've replaced something with a new part from the parts store doesn't mean that it's right. I changed 5 starters in 7 monthson my dad toyota van. Everyone came from autozone. Then I went to advanced autoparts... It's lasted for 3 years. I've worked on alot of cars. From my perspective.... re-man stuff is 50/50. U never know what you're going to get.
I don't think ford starters need to be shimed?But if it doesn't act up without a load. Then your starter gear could be getting in a bind.
And now for more questions....
Does it do it everytime? Or only when it's hot? And do your headlights dim when you put an electrical load (turn on the heater,stereo,rear defroster)on the car while running?
If it does it all the time... Could be... grounding problem,defective solenoid, starter gear binding, or seizing starter.
When the cars hot.... could be... defective starter, or solenoid.
If your headlights dim.... almost definately a cable problem. Because your cars running off of the altenator.
I'd go to an autoparts store that test charging systems. They can load test the battery and charging system. It might shed some light on if there's a problem elsewhere than what you've replaced.
And finally..... Don't forget..... Just because you've replaced something with a new part from the parts store doesn't mean that it's right. I changed 5 starters in 7 monthson my dad toyota van. Everyone came from autozone. Then I went to advanced autoparts... It's lasted for 3 years. I've worked on alot of cars. From my perspective.... re-man stuff is 50/50. U never know what you're going to get.
#8
RE: Strange starting problem?
ORIGINAL: monkeyboy
If your headlights dim.... almost definately a cable problem. Because your cars running off of the altenator.
If your headlights dim.... almost definately a cable problem. Because your cars running off of the altenator.
#9
RE: Strange starting problem?
hell, what am i thinking.....check the ignition, it might be wearing out, and intermittently not energizing the solenoid......u can just jump the wires on the solenoid and the starter should crank, do it a couple times, and if it works fine every time, its something i nthe ignition
#10
RE: Strange starting problem?
ORIGINAL: 302f150
hell, what am i thinking.....check the ignition, it might be wearing out, and intermittently not energizing the solenoid......u can just jump the wires on the solenoid and the starter should crank, do it a couple times, and if it works fine every time, its something i nthe ignition
hell, what am i thinking.....check the ignition, it might be wearing out, and intermittently not energizing the solenoid......u can just jump the wires on the solenoid and the starter should crank, do it a couple times, and if it works fine every time, its something i nthe ignition