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Old 12-28-2003, 07:28 PM
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Ok my best friend has a pontiac FIRETURD that was originally a 2.8.Well thats gone it now has a swapped over 350 with cam,headers,4 barrel,intake,700R4 with shift kit and 2,000 stall,10 bolt posi,3.55 gears,all in a 1987 FIRETURD SE.</P>


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Now mineis a 1989 Lx coupe and ithasa 1980 302 block bored 0.060 over<BR clear=all>Eagle stroker kit<BR clear=all>D8OE 351 heads Ported and polished and with oversized valves<BR clear=all>Elgian 3/4 race cam (VERY LUMPY)<BR clear=all>Holley shorty headers into 3 inch exhaust with 45 degree turn downs right before the rear axle (The neighbors love me)<BR clear=all>Performer intake ported<BR clear=all>performer 600 carb<BR clear=all>new recurved 85 GT duraspark distributor<BR clear=all>motorsport wires 9mm<BR clear=all>100 amp alternator<BR clear=all>1 inch aluminum carb spacer<BR clear=all>Mr.Gasket Hilborn style race scoop(FOR MY NEW ADD ON A B&amp;M 144 BLOWER)no blower yet though<BR clear=all>SVO subframe connectors welded and bolted<BR clear=all>High volume melling oil pump<BR clear=all>HV waterpump<BR clear=all>160 Thermostat<BR clear=all>C4 auto 2.46.1 first,1.46.1 second,1.1 third<BR clear=all>2,000 stall convertor<BR clear=all>3.73 rear gears<BR clear=all>3 core modine race radiator<BR clear=all></P>


Now obviously we arent going head to head in the winter but in the spring i will be stomping a mudhole in his ***!Based on both our setups what do you think our chances are against each other?Im more than sure i can take him in the 1/4 mile but he is a die hard gm fan as i am a ford fan and we've been bench racing each other all winter so who do you think has the upper hand?We are just about evenly matched as far as boltons its just the cubic inches and other small details that have each of us betting on our own car.So what do you think?<BR clear=all></P><edited><editID>TheGmKiller331</editID><editDate>37983.7286342593</editDate></edited>
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Old 12-28-2003, 11:14 PM
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i think you need to put some Mac long tube headers and Mac o/r/h-pipe and that will help you out a good bit man them shorty's don't really do much
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Old 12-30-2003, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStang225
i think you need to put some Mac long tube headers and Mac o/r/h-pipe and that will help you out a good bit man them shorty's don't really do much
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definately, i think you should win.</P>
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Old 12-30-2003, 01:51 AM
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As a fomer owner of 86 firebird w/swap 327 that had cam, headers, full exhuast, 10-bolt rear w/4.11s. I could only take 5.0s by a small margen. So with your 3.73 vs his 3.55 I think you'll win hands down. He has poor gearing in my opinion. I would go out and take a bet you'll beat him by about 1/2-3/4 of a car length. Just remember if its a 5.7L from the 80's or early 90's he's not pushing all that much more hp comparied to you. Plus your about a good 1000lbs lighter, just burn him.<IMG src=smileys/smiley17.gif border="0">
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Originally Posted by tormenting5.0
As a fomer owner of 86 firebird w/swap 327 that had cam, headers, full exhuast, 10-bolt rear w/4.11s. I could only take 5.0s by a small margen. So with your 3.73 vs his 3.55 I think you'll win hands down. He has poor gearing in my opinion. I would go out and take a bet you'll beat him by about 1/2-3/4 of a car length. Just remember if its a 5.7L from the 80's or early 90's he's not pushing all that much more hp comparied to you. Plus your about a good 1000lbs lighter, just burn him.<IMG src=smileys/smiley17.gif border="0">
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From the looks of it I would say that the 5.0 had more horsepower then the chevy depending on how big the cam, intake, heads, etc were on the 350. From whatI read hereyou should win almost hands down. Death to the chevys. But the gearing thing you are talking about "tormenting5.0" I just dont get. 3.55s arnt good enough gears now ? If someone has more horsepower than you and say they have 3.55s and you with less horsepower but with 3.73s you think that you are going to win ? Prolly not. From what ive seen 3.55s to 3.73s is not going to be a crazy of adiffernce. Mabye I didnt read it right. Could you sun up what you meant tormenting5.0?</P>
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Old 12-30-2003, 02:58 AM
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327 V8 vs a 350 V8...that's a 23 cubic inch difference.... 302 vs 327 is a 25 cubic inch difference, where as a 302 and a 350 is a 48 cid difference.....and I know how you people talk about LS1's and 4.6/5.0's......

Don't get cocky, that's all I'm saying.

Let us know what happens in a couple months.
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Old 12-30-2003, 06:12 AM
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You'll stroke him.... don't worry. If the setup is exactly as you've said..... you've got it! Hands down
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Old 12-31-2003, 10:14 AM
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I have the same race preparred with a TA LS1 and at the moment I am sucking but, by that time he should be sucking
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Old 12-31-2003, 11:53 AM
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wtf?........just race
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Old 12-31-2003, 11:56 AM
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Cant race to much in the snow and ice. Maybe into a wall
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