well after sittin in my room for 2 months there finally on the dam car lol .. they were the mm xl full lenghts .. and i cant really say there was much of .. maybe a very slight all around improvement .. i dont know ive read lots of posts of people saying they felt a big difference. the car does have 31 k and is in pretty good condition i dont know maybe thats why .. anyway heres a couple pics [/align]Picture005-1.jpg - Image - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting[/align]Picture004.jpg - Image - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting[/align]Picture003-1.jpg - Image - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting[/align][/align]i also found out what that friggen rattle was i been harrassin you guys about .. i think in that 3rd pic theres a tube comin out of the exhaust .. well the previous owner had removed the smog pump but apparently he left this cap fitting in that tube and it was bouncing in and out so we just tack welded it back in ... Hey anyone have the same problem i do with the big plastic peice on the hatch buzzin like a sob ??? wacha do about something like that ???[/align]