5.0L General Discussion This section is for non-tech specific information pertaining to 5.0L Mustangs.

H pipe Vs X pipes Vs True Duals

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-18-2009, 06:17 PM
  #11  
OnyxCobra
6th Gear Member
 
OnyxCobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 8,467
Default

Originally Posted by F150 StrokerCobra
Little bit of info...if you do plan on doing an H pipe...throw some paint on the first 3ft of your pipes, and where the paint is burned off...that's the optimal place for the H pipe.
That's weird cause Dr. Gas seems to think the best place for the crossover is as close to the headers as possible...
OnyxCobra is offline  
Old 09-18-2009, 09:41 PM
  #12  
94StinkinLincoln
5th Gear Member
 
94StinkinLincoln's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: louisiana
Posts: 2,763
Default

Originally Posted by FoxGT
X or H will offer more power due to the scavenging effect created from the crossover. In my opinion H & X sound far better than true duals, but I think true duals sound like sh*t. Everyone's opinion is different. X sounds best during driving & wot, H sounds better at idle imo. I run an H now, but if I had to pick again I would have gone with the X.

As far as power production between the X or H, the only way you're going to find out is dyno the car with both setups a couple times. Some people on here will say X is more powerful, some will say H. I've seen dyno tests where both produced more. mm&ff & a few other companies tested & both got mixed answers. in one case the X produces more, in another the H did. Personally I would pick based on sound between the H or X & I wouldn't pick the duals at all due to significantly lower power.
A properly setup H or X will accelerate the vehicle faster than no crossover.
Straight pipe, no cross over will accelerate faster than an incorrectly setup H or X pipe.
It matters where the crossover is put...
94StinkinLincoln is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 12:05 AM
  #13  
67mustang302
6th Gear Member
 
67mustang302's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: California
Posts: 10,468
Default

Ideally you do want the crossover as close to the collector as possible, but where it is usually ends up being more of a packaging consideration than anything else.
67mustang302 is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 12:07 AM
  #14  
94StinkinLincoln
5th Gear Member
 
94StinkinLincoln's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: louisiana
Posts: 2,763
Default

Originally Posted by 67mustang302
Ideally you do want the crossover as close to the collector as possible, but where it is usually ends up being more of a packaging consideration than anything else.
nope

bolt a straight piece of pipe to each collector, paint the pipe. where the paint stops burning, put the crossover.
94StinkinLincoln is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 12:09 AM
  #15  
FoxGT
5th Gear Member
 
FoxGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: United States
Posts: 3,451
Default

Originally Posted by 94StinkinLincoln
A properly setup H or X will accelerate the vehicle faster than no crossover.
Straight pipe, no cross over will accelerate faster than an incorrectly setup H or X pipe.
It matters where the crossover is put...
Yeah I have an article on it going over size, backpressure, & velocity aswell as the H or X, but it never went into great detail about best location; it did however show some designs based on what they found with their testing. I personally have done no testing to back up either, just what i've read.
FoxGT is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 12:13 AM
  #16  
94StinkinLincoln
5th Gear Member
 
94StinkinLincoln's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: louisiana
Posts: 2,763
Default

I did not know about it until after i welded my exhaust up, or it totally escaped my feeble mind. im kind of curious on how far off mine is, i might just paint mine for for giggles.

Its only what i have read/been told by a person i trust in the performance world.
94StinkinLincoln is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 07:56 AM
  #17  
Jfsram
4th Gear Member
 
Jfsram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location:
Posts: 1,999
Default

For an F150. Did you know Mustang headers fit them trucks. Can be had for pretty much free too.

The H favours smaller cams and lower end performance vs an X which will help with scavenging for big overlap racing cams. Since you have a truck I'd go with an H.
Jfsram is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 07:59 AM
  #18  
94StinkinLincoln
5th Gear Member
 
94StinkinLincoln's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: louisiana
Posts: 2,763
Default

Originally Posted by Jfsram

The H favours smaller cams and lower end performance vs an X which will help with scavenging for big overlap racing cams. Since you have a truck I'd go with an H.
that's one of the biggest crocks of shyt i have ever heard.
94StinkinLincoln is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 11:44 AM
  #19  
F150 StrokerCobra
2nd Gear Member
Thread Starter
 
F150 StrokerCobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Oranjestad, Aruba
Posts: 220
Default

Originally Posted by Jfsram
For an F150. Did you know Mustang headers fit them trucks. Can be had for pretty much free too.

The H favours smaller cams and lower end performance vs an X which will help with scavenging for big overlap racing cams. Since you have a truck I'd go with an H.
F150 headers are not a prob becuase F150 where offered with 5.0's also..
F150 StrokerCobra is offline  
Old 09-19-2009, 02:25 PM
  #20  
OnyxCobra
6th Gear Member
 
OnyxCobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 8,467
Default

Originally Posted by 94StinkinLincoln
nope

bolt a straight piece of pipe to each collector, paint the pipe. where the paint stops burning, put the crossover.

I don't see how that makes any difference at all.
OnyxCobra is offline  


Quick Reply: H pipe Vs X pipes Vs True Duals



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:51 AM.