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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Hi, I'm not sure when is the best time to install a computer tune. When adding a CAI & PCM tune.....is better to do this last? Should other performance mods be installed prior to a PCM tune....such as Headers & exhaust, 4.10 gears, not sure if tire size makes a difference, pullies and anything else I didn't think of. After reviewing different PCM tuners I noticed that these new style tuners could be application specific......doesn't matter for mild performance improvements? Any advice will be appreciated?
The last PCM tuner (hypertech) I bought was a few years ago for a Corvette. It made a difference, but all I could adjust was rev limit, tire size for speedo and gear ratio....the tunes were pre-programmed......do the new 5.0 programmers have these same features? Advice from a tuner veterans is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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If you buy from a company like Bama or Brenspeed, they'll offer you liftime updates to your custom tunes. That way you get more out of your tunes in the first place since they're honed in to your own car, and then as you add things, you can call them up and let them know and they can make alterations to your code and then you just upload the new ones onto your tuner and then onto the car.

Getting a tune early on is necessary when it comes to a bunch of the alterations that involve air flow changes or high performance changes.
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Originally Posted by daredevil95
Hi, I'm not sure when is the best time to install a computer tune. When adding a CAI & PCM tune.....is better to do this last? Should other performance mods be installed prior to a PCM tune....such as Headers & exhaust, 4.10 gears, not sure if tire size makes a difference, pullies and anything else I didn't think of. After reviewing different PCM tuners I noticed that these new style tuners could be application specific......doesn't matter for mild performance improvements? Any advice will be appreciated?
The last PCM tuner (hypertech) I bought was a few years ago for a Corvette. It made a difference, but all I could adjust was rev limit, tire size for speedo and gear ratio....the tunes were pre-programmed......do the new 5.0 programmers have these same features? Advice from a tuner veterans is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Pretty much exactly what the last post said is true. You need a tune in order to run most modifications on 05+ Mustangs. Cold air intakes, long tube headers, etc. - they need to be properly dialed in inside the calibration. As for rev limits, tire sizes and axle ratios - we're going to take care of this stuff for you inside the custom tune so that the speedometer is correct. This is crucial more for automatic vehicles, to ensure they shift correctly. And we give you free tune updates for life, so that any future modifications are taken care of as well. If you want more info, I would call one of our Bama Custom tuners and speak to them. They can give you awesome technical info and go over the options with you. They're here in the building Monday-Friday 9AM-5:30PM EST. Give them a call at 888.226.9764 directly!
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Is there a tuner tool/software available so that we can do the adjustments ourselves? I know it's complicated...but, the fun is also in the learning. Not meaning to use this as a qualification....roughly 18 years ago or so... we had primitive software and would actually adjust the programs line by line and then convert into graphs and if we were happy....burn it on to a special blank chip and install back into the computer.....like a said primitive software...we used on Z28s and Vettes. It was a lot of fun, it seems complicated at first, but after some time playing around with it was very understandable, offers a lot of value as far as flexibility. I have no idea on what to research as far as vendors or if something like this is within a reasonable price. Any advice will be appreciated.

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Any info?....anybody??
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The software is either SCT or Diablosport. I know SCT is about 1500 for the single Mustang year package, or something like maybe $5000 for all Mustangs. This will give you VERY VERY basic access, and surely not enough to fully tune the vehicle. It will have basic fueling and timing parameters. So then from there, you can head down to Orlando and check out SCT's Basic and Advanced training courses. They're 1500/pc per person, and you'll be there for a few days - but it's definitely worth it. You'll learn basic and advanced PCM controls and functions. The nice thing about it is that the advanced class completion will unlock drive-by-wire and other functions that are necessary for tuning a Mustang (05+ especially).
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The software is either SCT or Diablosport. I know SCT is about 1500 for the single Mustang year package, or something like maybe $5000 for all Mustangs. This will give you VERY VERY basic access, and surely not enough to fully tune the vehicle. It will have basic fueling and timing parameters. So then from there, you can head down to Orlando and check out SCT's Basic and Advanced training courses. They're 1500/pc per person, and you'll be there for a few days - but it's definitely worth it. You'll learn basic and advanced PCM controls and functions. The nice thing about it is that the advanced class completion will unlock drive-by-wire and other functions that are necessary for tuning a Mustang (05+ especially).
Nice....thanks....I'll look into it.

SCT Pro-Racer Advantage III Ford Tuning Software (Software Only)....found it....thanks!!

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AMChrisRose
The software is either SCT or Diablosport. I know SCT is about 1500 for the single Mustang year package, or something like maybe $5000 for all Mustangs. This will give you VERY VERY basic access, and surely not enough to fully tune the vehicle. It will have basic fueling and timing parameters. So then from there, you can head down to Orlando and check out SCT's Basic and Advanced training courses. They're 1500/pc per person, and you'll be there for a few days - but it's definitely worth it. You'll learn basic and advanced PCM controls and functions. The nice thing about it is that the advanced class completion will unlock drive-by-wire and other functions that are necessary for tuning a Mustang (05+ especially).
Chris,

Hi, If I bought a SCT Bama tune from you guys and also bought the SCT Pro-Racer Advantage III software.....would I be able to unlock the Bama tunes and make modifications/alterations?
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I definitely understand wanting to modify tunes. However, if you don't have a dyno, not a good idea. Trust the professionals. I recommend John Lund (of Lund Racing).
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Originally Posted by CJStang50
I definitely understand wanting to modify tunes. However, if you don't have a dyno, not a good idea. Trust the professionals. I recommend John Lund (of Lund Racing).
I agree.....A friend of mine has a dyno. Thanks



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