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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mishri
well If i were you buzzbee, I'd get a 2013, they have upgraded pistons and internals like the boss 302.
That's not entirely true. While they have different pistons, they are still not forged. The only other thing they have done to them is use a different coating on them, and they removed the oil cooling jets, which reduced windage, and therefore increased the power by 8hp. I wouldn't go as far as saying the 2013s will have 0 issues. As far as the #8 cylinder goes on the 11/12 cars, it's really not a wide spread problem on them either. Less than 15 cars between all the Mustang Forums are documented, and none of them have been stock. It's the poor tunes that are doing the cars in.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 12:36 AM
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I had read that the boss 302 pistons weren't true forged, but powder coated. google didn't turn up anything definite.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated. That's what was drawing me toward the stang was the reception to mods and boosting power, performance down the road. If I get one I'll leave it stock for now until the warranty has expired. Right now in Canada there is no cash incentive for the 2013's yet but there is $4500 for the 2012 so it's a decent deal right now. Not really interested in the Camaro or Dodge although a co-worker bought a 5.7 hemi Charger and it seemed pretty quick, I guess the Mustang will take it though
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Deki
That's not entirely true. While they have different pistons, they are still not forged. The only other thing they have done to them is use a different coating on them, and they removed the oil cooling jets, which reduced windage, and therefore increased the power by 8hp. I wouldn't go as far as saying the 2013s will have 0 issues. As far as the #8 cylinder goes on the 11/12 cars, it's really not a wide spread problem on them either. Less than 15 cars between all the Mustang Forums are documented, and none of them have been stock. It's the poor tunes that are doing the cars in.
The pistons are forged aluminum, it states it right in the manual, the connecting rods are powder coated.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 2008GT/CSBuckeye
The pistons are forged aluminum, it states it right in the manual, the connecting rods are powder coated.
the 2013 mustang GT's? I think you are incorrect. There was even an article on this forum saying the only difference was a coating on the pistons and a slightly different tune.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy13186
the 2013 mustang GT's? I think you are incorrect. There was even an article on this forum saying the only difference was a coating on the pistons and a slightly different tune.
I read his question wrong I thought he was asking about Boss pistions, but I did read somewhere that they reworked some items in the 2013 GT.
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzbee
Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated. That's what was drawing me toward the stang was the reception to mods and boosting power, performance down the road. If I get one I'll leave it stock for now until the warranty has expired. Right now in Canada there is no cash incentive for the 2013's yet but there is $4500 for the 2012 so it's a decent deal right now. Not really interested in the Camaro or Dodge although a co-worker bought a 5.7 hemi Charger and it seemed pretty quick, I guess the Mustang will take it though
IMO , Unless there is a huge change in the 2013 I would get the 2012 for the cash savings. We purchased a 2011 from Rocky Mountian House Ab. For a huge savings and with the money we saved its getting a roush SC and body parts and new wheels and tires from Paul Howey, and Tire Rack. It is still 5k under sticker price up here. Not to metion stock this car is fast.

Thanks SDF
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by superdutyfan
So is that an option for the gt ?? or just for the over priced gt500 ?
Then buy a GT and upgrade it yourself.

The oem (any of them) is not under any obligation to make a car handle more than what they designed it for. There's a huge aftermarket for Mustangs, everyone knows that. I personally would prefer that ford keep the costs of the new car down and let those that want to play pony up their own cash instead of my extra thousand or so bucks going towards your interest in upgrading your car using the factory setup then complaining that the factory setup is not good enough for you.

There are tons of people that buy the car and keep it completely stock not even a tune.

You as in the collective upgrade aftermarket, not you personally
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2008GT/CSBuckeye
The pistons are forged aluminum, it states it right in the manual, the connecting rods are powder coated.
that's probably what i had read, the concern was that in the 4.6L the connecting rods were what always broke, the pistons were awesome. so they were worried that in the boss that would be the weak point yet again.
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzbee
Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated. That's what was drawing me toward the stang was the reception to mods and boosting power, performance down the road. If I get one I'll leave it stock for now until the warranty has expired. Right now in Canada there is no cash incentive for the 2013's yet but there is $4500 for the 2012 so it's a decent deal right now. Not really interested in the Camaro or Dodge although a co-worker bought a 5.7 hemi Charger and it seemed pretty quick, I guess the Mustang will take it though
Charger quick? Chally yes. Charger no. Charger is way too heavy to resemble quick.



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