Hi,
I started a thread here a couple months ago asking for help designing a system, but I decided to wait to purchase until I had more money. I now am willing to spent about $1500 on a system, including a double din dvd/nav headunit.
I mostly listen to rock, and am looking for SQ.
Here's what I was thinking about:

Avic-D3 $750 http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=17995
CDT components $250 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4630
2 SQ10 $140 http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=106
Profile AP1000 (for components) $135 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4869
Profile AP2000 (for subs) $210 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4872
Total: $1485

I don't really understang the Ohm ratings on the subs, or how having 2 subs would affect it, would I want the S2 or S4 voice coil?

I'm definitally open to suggestions.
Thankyou!

 

The Pioneer AVIC-D3 seems like a pretty nice deck and it is pioneer so you know it is good quality. CDT makes very good speakers, I dont know really care for ED designs subs,although thats ALL seight ever recommends lol! but all in all it looks like a pretty descent system....

 

That is a ton of power for those subs. I love having the additional headroom from more power, but you will need to be careful setting your gains.

There should be info on the ohm thing in the info section, if not I will explain if neccessary.

 

eD's website also shows you what wiring configurations do, on their table on the right, all the way at the bottom under Subwoofer Wiring.

Not true! 90%... Maybe, but I can't help it eD has a driver that fits everyones budget and works great in an all around sense... If someone has a need for a driver thats not an eD, I will definatly post it. It's not like eD is paying me or anything .

P suggests eD just as much as I do... Say he does it too Jimmz!

Anyway, yeah theres good woofers out there, I am debating on buying an eD woofer myself in my thread thats up right now. Theres some drivers out there just as good as eD ones, but they are 2x the price so.... What would your choice be?

Plus I have to represent for my hood...

Iowa biotch! woot woot! [sm=icon_rock.gif]

And I know this would put you about $25 over budget, but consider doing 2-11Kv2's instead of the SQ10's. They will take the power better, unless you want the space saving design...

 

Thanks for the info guys. I've got a couple more questions before I order this stuff.

I think that I will go with the 11Kv2's, they do look like they'd be a better match. From what I grasp at ed's wireing page, I can run dual 4 ohm in paralell (ending up at 2 ohms), or dual 2ohm in series (ending up at 4 ohms). Since its a 2 channel amp, I'll just go one sub per channel. Am I better off running 2 ohms or 4 Ohms?

I was looking at the power ratings and trying to figure out what wiring sizings I would need. It looks like I can run 1/0 back to a distribution block and then 4AWG to the small amp and 2AWG to the big amp, or I could run 4AWG all the way from the battery to the small amp, and 2AWG from the battery to the big amp. Which setup would I be better off with?

With the amount of power that I am going to be using, should I do a big 3 upgrade?

Should I use any sound deadening?

Thankyou!

 

4 guauge should be plenty for you if not then step up to 2 guague. Big 3 is not necessary but I would do it. I know it helps out on your voltage. Seight311, PReal, Hiss chime in if I am saying anything wrong. If you can afford to sound deadend I would do it as well less rattles the better the sound.

 

You'll be happy with what you get out of the pair of 11Kv's.

Running at 2 if you want it louder. Some people like running at 4 ohm, some say it sounds better. To just about any normal listener though the SQ difference will go un-noticed. For you I would run it at 2 ohm...

To save money and upgrading in the future I would run 1/0 all the way back, then distributionto your 4 ga and 2 ga to the amps, or even 4 to both will be just fine. Easier to find a block that has dual 4 ga outputs than 1 with 2 ga and 4 ga. Running a 4 ga and a 2 ga all the way back is going to be about $100+ just in those 2 wires.

Do you need SD or a Big 3? No...

Should you do them? Yes!

If your budget only calls for one or the other, I would do SD. You have to rip out some of your interior anyway, might as well do it at the same time.

If you wondering about where to do SD, I would do your door panels and all of your trunk. If not all of your trunk do your bottom and sides. You can do the trunk lid basically whenever without removing everything from your trunk.

If your budget calls for it though, do it all

 

Okay, so heres what I'm looking at ordering:

Pioneer AVIC-D3 750 http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=17995
CDT Components 250 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4630
Profile AP1000 135 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4869
(2) Ed 11Kv.2 (dual 4) 180 http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...products_id=30
Profile AP2000 210 http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4872

antenna (revoved old one) 20 http://www.crutchfield.com/S-wPblVUA...12044UA200#Tab
Dash kit 15 http://www.crutchfield.com/S-NyAV4EG...mp;I=120995807
Wiring harness 10 http://www.crutchfield.com/S-NyAV4EG...mp;I=120705520

1/0 Kicker power kit 85 http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...roductID=17214
(2) 20' RCA 50 http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=235
12' 12AWG sub wire 9 http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=175
speaker baffels 8 http://www.crutchfield.com/S-NyAV4EG...&I=237XT65
1/0 big 3 kit 50 http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=163

total: $1,772

I think I may as well add some sound deadening as well since I'm already spending more than I should. Is the Ed eDead v1² good enough? How much should I get if I want to do the doors, and the whole trunk?

I should be able to get MDF and carpet locally, is there anything else that I should order?

Thanks for all of the help, if it wasn't for you guys I'd be ending up with some POS sony system from bestbuy.

 

Each door is roughly 15 sq. feet, your entire trunk, expect about 30 sq. feet.

Honestly the best for your money is the paint on stuff from eD. It's super easy to apply too. Then if you want to go further add some of the sheet metal type, then if you want to go all out add some of the foam teklite.

I myself am doing the paint on almost everywhere, then Teklite in the key areas.

Otherwise everything looks pretty good man.

And you dont really need those baffle things, they may kinda restrict your mid-woofer. It's like mounting your woofer in a snug plastic garbage can. If your doing deadening and your car is realtivly new, I wouldn't worry about them. Your car isn't going to be leaking much into your doors.

Now if you have a 1990 Escort, you might have some moisture issues, and those might be a good idea. [sm=trust_me.gif]

 

I always cover my doors at least twice. I have two layers on the outer door skin and two layers on the inner panel.

I don't thinkthere is a thing as too much deadening.