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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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A few questions about component sets...
Ok, 1. why is a comp better than a co-axial...i have my own idea but i want to see if its right
2. how come some systems have crossovers and others dont
3. is a 24 db octave(i think thats right) decently good for a crossover running a 5.25 mid and a 1" tweeter
4.tweeters, is bigger better?
and anything else I should know?

Im fiberglassing my package tray in my 98 and hopefully it will come out good...its my first fg project and its pretty complex
Old Jan 2, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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comps chould come with crossovers unless your running active. it depends what brand and model comps to figure out what slope they have but its already built into a xover so it dosnt matter. comp is better than a coax because it has alot better freq handeling and staging ability and cleaner because it dosnt have a huge tweeter in the way. cheap comps arnt very good and cheap coaxs arnt very good either so if your gona fiberglass atleast get some decent ones.
Old Jan 3, 2006 | 04:33 AM
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Been told Phoenix Gold makes some good stuff..i already bought about half of my needed stuff so it better work, but speakers could be easily removed in the fiberglassing

The PG R series didnt show crossovers but the ZR does and I gotthem...
Old Jan 3, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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I agree with Sinister. And bigger is better. I haven't seen anything other than 3/4"-1 1/4". 1" is the norm, sure they will have their differences just like any speaker. But never will bigger is better be true... Not with tweeters anyway. Best of luck on your FG job. I am going to do mine once I get the money to pay for my comps, my first as well, should be interesting. Heres a tip, use fleece is thincker and will hold up better than alot of other fabrics.
Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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i use fleece all the time and if you want to save a ton of money dont go buy fleece at a craft store go to walmart and buy a blanket for like 3 bucks its about a 1/4 of the cost of what raw fleece costs and its the exact same. and for resin go to a marine shop or a fiberglass place the other stuff is over priced crap.
Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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LOL, I was planning on going to walmart for 2 yards of fleece tomorrow morning(actually in a coupke hours) and I get my resine from a friend who works at a marine shop...what luck!

And bigger is better. I haven't seen anything other than 3/4"-1 1/4". 1" is the norm, sure they will have their differences just like any speaker. But never will bigger is better be true...
you totally contradicted yourself^? Well, my package tray is turning out nothing like I expected but it looks b*tchn...I made vents that look like hood scoops and recessed the tweets alittle in it...I plan on putting the 5.25 mids off to the sides of it and not sure about the 6*9's yet. Too bad PG doesnt make a 6*9 component speaker, they only make round ones...Would it be possible to buy a set of 6*9 comp. speakers from another company say Alpine and wire it into the same crossover as the ones running the tweeter and speak off the PG system? Or would it have to be indepent from the others? I cant wait to get some pics...
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:07 AM
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Be better if it's separate. I would suggest just doing the 6 1/2" comps, not the 6x9's comps. I meant to put a ? after the first statement, not a period. Sorry
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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Yea i was thinking about the 6.5's too..but if i bought the mids but not the tweeters, would I need a crossover or could i wire it straight to the amp?
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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Wait! Ok, you should under stand my current setup. I have the car's xplod head pushing the front pioneer 6*8's and the rear pioneer 6*8's. Then I have a PG800w4ch amp running 2 xplod 5.25 in the back aswell...and was pushing 2 subs aswell, Im getting rid of the subs and xplod speakers and the rear pioneers...so I will have pioneers up front, 5.25 PG in back and 6.25 in back. I will run the 5.25's to the amp, but can I wire the 6.5's into the pioneers spot or do i have to run it to the amp? If i hook it to the head, will i need a crossover to stop the high's from the speaker?
Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:11 AM
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Nowadays alot of full-range amps have decent crossovers built into them so I mean you could use the one thats on that. If not yes I would tell you to get a separate crossover. Something else to think about is you shouldn't really think about wasting money on a rear componet set. With so much bass in the trunk the small amount of mid-bass coming from your speakers in the rear deck is going to almost be unheard of. So just doing a decent set of coaxials in the back will be sufficient. And really those back speakers aren't meant to be there for better sound they are meant to be there so the passengers back there can hear it clearer. Not alot of people think about that. Your listening to stereo sound a right and left channel. I don't know how much you like to please the people that are riding in your back seat, but unless it's going to get you laid, i wouldn't waste the money. Im not putting any back speakers in my car when I re-due my entire audio set-up. And if I cahnge my mind I would probably just be doing a 4 inch mid just for a little bit of high tones to come from the rear. remember it's your car your in the drivers seat what 98-100% of the time think about how it's going to sound where your sitting not anyone else. But this is just my opinion I have told many people this even when I am selling and they still don't listen to me because someone else told them "Yeah dude if you put componets on the back it'll sound even 10 times better", so your choice, your time, your money.

And when I say all this is I do of course mean unless your are doing 5.1 in your car, which is very expensive if you were going to think about doing it now that I mentioned it. I am talking some custom work to get a decent center speaker and a separate baby amp for it, all the processors and things you'll need to get it to be a decent 5.1 system. And honestly do you spend enough time in your car to enjoy the surround sound in it? And if you weren't thinking about doing that then im sorry you just wasted 20 seconds reading that but i thought I would save myself some time if you or someone else asked about it after reading that.



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