Hidden Roll Cage - Gonna Try It !
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Hidden Roll Cage - Gonna Try It !
So I decided I will put in a hidden roll cage within the frame. Here are some shots of the work I did the past week.
The toe pans and rear torque boxes are already done so I could only cut the rocker panel off so much. But it doesn't matter really, the areas pertinent to the install are all reachable.
I tested out a 1 3/4 diameter pipe (from my old 4 point roll cage) and it fits perfectly. It is the max diameter you can get in there, unless you cutout the support inside the rocker. Threw in a pic of the A piller skin. Many, many, oh so many spot welds!
Anyone have any idea what resale value a hidden roll cage adds to a restomod ?
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The toe pans and rear torque boxes are already done so I could only cut the rocker panel off so much. But it doesn't matter really, the areas pertinent to the install are all reachable.
I tested out a 1 3/4 diameter pipe (from my old 4 point roll cage) and it fits perfectly. It is the max diameter you can get in there, unless you cutout the support inside the rocker. Threw in a pic of the A piller skin. Many, many, oh so many spot welds!
Anyone have any idea what resale value a hidden roll cage adds to a restomod ?
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RE: Hidden Roll Cage - Gonna Try It !
keep us updated and also detailed how tos I mit be interested in doing that to my car seeing how I have to do alot work in those areas anyways and its going to be crazy fast and I want the classic look too.
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Anyone have any idea what resale value a hidden roll cage adds to a restomod ?
Anyone have any idea what resale value a hidden roll cage adds to a restomod ?
Here's why.
1. Someone buys it be a show car....if you can't see....it's useless to them "but but but....I deserve more mod points...I have a roll bar...you just can't see it"
2. Someone buys it be a car they drive on the street....its a street car.....no value to the purchaser in having a roll bar beyond the same value they would get with subframe connectors.
3. Someone buys it to race it, cause its a restomod and its fast.....no value. If they race in any class that regulates the use of a roll bar, your hidden item will not pass tech, if they race in a class (or for fun) where no roll bar is required, you have added significant weight to the car which will slow them down.
The only person this will add any percieved value too, is you, and your bragging rights about what you did to your car.
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Sorry but I just can't see how that will work with the angle of the pillar? If you roll it over, with that angle, the steel will fold. I could be wrong, but angles do play a part in structural stability. A steel building is stronger on a vertical plane but will sway side to side. I've seen steel structures come down in wind storms. I'd put a shelby style roll cage in the car to increase the restomod value.
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RE: Hidden Roll Cage - Gonna Try It !
ORIGINAL: dodgestang
I hate to burst your bubble, but it will add exactly "ZERO" value to the car.
Here's why.
1. Someone buys it be a show car....if you can't see....it's useless to them "but but but....I deserve more mod points...I have a roll bar...you just can't see it"
2. Someone buys it be a car they drive on the street....its a street car.....no value to the purchaser in having a roll bar beyond the same value they would get with subframe connectors.
3. Someone buys it to race it, cause its a restomod and its fast.....no value. If they race in any class that regulates the use of a roll bar, your hidden item will not pass tech, if they race in a class (or for fun) where no roll bar is required, you have added significant weight to the car which will slow them down.
The only person this will add any percieved value too, is you, and your bragging rights about what you did to your car.
ORIGINAL: restomod67
Anyone have any idea what resale value a hidden roll cage adds to a restomod ?
Anyone have any idea what resale value a hidden roll cage adds to a restomod ?
Here's why.
1. Someone buys it be a show car....if you can't see....it's useless to them "but but but....I deserve more mod points...I have a roll bar...you just can't see it"
2. Someone buys it be a car they drive on the street....its a street car.....no value to the purchaser in having a roll bar beyond the same value they would get with subframe connectors.
3. Someone buys it to race it, cause its a restomod and its fast.....no value. If they race in any class that regulates the use of a roll bar, your hidden item will not pass tech, if they race in a class (or for fun) where no roll bar is required, you have added significant weight to the car which will slow them down.
The only person this will add any percieved value too, is you, and your bragging rights about what you did to your car.
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Im not sure, but does that cause any warping on any of those panels/frame parts? -Jon
Im not sure, but does that cause any warping on any of those panels/frame parts? -Jon
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Sorry but I just can't see how that will work with the angle of the pillar? If you roll it over, with that angle, the steel will fold. I could be wrong, but angles do play a part in structural stability. A steel building is stronger on a vertical plane but will sway side to side. I've seen steel structures come down in wind storms. I'd put a shelby style roll cage in the car to increase the restomod value.
Sorry but I just can't see how that will work with the angle of the pillar? If you roll it over, with that angle, the steel will fold. I could be wrong, but angles do play a part in structural stability. A steel building is stronger on a vertical plane but will sway side to side. I've seen steel structures come down in wind storms. I'd put a shelby style roll cage in the car to increase the restomod value.
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your car is also old school ***** out metal, where as new cars are all plasticy. if i were you id be more worried about good restraint (seatbelts!!) because that steering column aint goin no where and you are.
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your car is also old school ***** out metal, where as new cars are all plasticy. if i were you id be more worried about good restraint (seatbelts!!) because that steering column aint goin no where and you are.
your car is also old school ***** out metal, where as new cars are all plasticy. if i were you id be more worried about good restraint (seatbelts!!) because that steering column aint goin no where and you are.
I plan on putting in 3-point seatbelts all the way around. Extra reinforced. The rear hump passenger will probably get a 4 point harness.