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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Is it just me or is there an extremely small market for carbon fiber on our classic parts.

Maybe there are some hoods and driveshafts(big dough), but is that it?
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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I've heard about some hoods, but not much else. I have also heard it is pretty brittle, but I don't have any experience with it to back that up.
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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mustang plus carries all the fiberglass parts in carbon fiber also i believe?
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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I've heard about some hoods, but not much else. I have also heard it is pretty brittle, but I don't have any experience with it to back that up.
Fiberglass is light but brittle, carbon fiber is light but extremely strong. Dont qoute me, but I believe it is used it kevlar vests...

Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Yep Kevlar is used in bullet proof vests and in helmets. My son wan an MP in the Army for 9 years.
http://www.pacificbulletproof.com/pr...***/index.html
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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One of my future dreams is to make an awesome sleeper.Mind you, this is years in the future, so it doesnt matter now, but weight is a huge factor. Things like our monte carlo bars and export brace could be made into tubular carbonfiber. They would bejust as strong, lighter, take less room(compared to stamped steel export brace) and not rust. Sway bars would be MUCH lighter.

These things are sitting in front of me, so I just thought of those first...
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Monte Carlo bars are pretty darn light as it is. My brother used carbon fiber control arms for his FSAE car in college and he said if they hit a cone or a rock flew up and hit them while racing on the track that they would snap in half.
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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True carbon fiber parts are hideously expensive due to the need to cure the part in an oven at a controlled temperature. It is what comprises a large amount of modern military aircraft.

The hoods you see on hondas and scions that are black with the weave pattern have not been heat cured, they are molded with a fiberglass resin. High end race teams can afford to have real carbon fiber body parts made, they are very light and incredibly strong. The ricer crowd wants the race look so they made parts that look like the real deal but are simply fiberglass resin impregnated black colored matting.

That stuff isnt big in the classic car world. Due mostly to the fact that most of them are not trying to be something they are not. Flashy stuff that does nothing just isnt in the budget for most people who own domestic vehicles built between 1950 and 1980. No need to look fast and furious. There just isnt a market for flashy BS and things to make your car "look" faster like there is with the Honda crowd. I still cant figure out why they like that buzzin weedeater noise that can be heard for miles.

How stong the black stuff is depends entirely on thickness and the composition of the resin, same with what it weighs.
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Not to mention the problems when this happens

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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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I didnt say anything about ricers or the fake carbon fiber look. I know my one buddy with a VW got a carbon fiber hood and it dropped the weight from nearly30 pounds to 4. I know a company makes carbonfiber driveshafts that are stronger than the aluminum ones and weigh less...



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