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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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I just picked up a project 65 Coupe. Just for the hell of it, I checked the numbers. Now I am confused! According to what I read, anything before 8/17/64 is a 64 1/2. Well, my car was built on 8/13/64. It has parts from a 64 and a 65. The thing that has me really scratching my head, it's a c-code 289! I think I've gotten some bad info, or mis-read it. Can anyone clear this up for me? Vin#5F07C260069, Tag: 65A,K,D6,13H,41,6,1
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Does it have a generator or alternator? Do the front outer edges of the hood have a completely rolled lip or a 90* bend straight down? Does your radiator support have fins by the battery?

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Warranty Number: 5F07C260069

Year:
5
1965

Plant:
F
Dearborn, MI

Body Series:
07
2 Door Hardtop

Engine:
C
289 2v V8

Unit:
260069
260069

Miscellaneous Vehicle Data

Body:
65A
2 Door Hardtop, Standard Interior

Color:
K
Silver Smoke Grey Metallic

Trim:
D6
White Crinkle Vinyl with Black Appointments, Standard Interior

Date:
13H
August 13, 1964

D.S.O:
41
Chicago

Axle:
6
2.80:1, Conventional

Trans:
1
3-Speed Manual
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Your car is a 1965 model built in Dearborn on the date you figured. Ford started building 'real' 65 models on the 1st of August and used up leftover '64' body parts. The hood and headlight buckets combination, carpet and radios were some of the leftovers. What's unusual is the last diget in the door data tag, the '1', which is for a 3.00:1 rear axle, not normally used on a 'C' code engine.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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From the FAQ:

How are 1964 1/2 and the 65 different?
http://www.vintage-mustang.com/topics/faq/64-65diff.html

With Pictures:
http://www.svs.com/zim/mustang/64faq.html

Good luck!
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Oops, me and my dyslexia, disreguard the 3.00:1 rear axle, it's as gothand says, 2.80:1.
Jim
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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ORIGINAL: gconnsr

I just picked up a project 65 Coupe. Just for the hell of it, I checked the numbers. Now I am confused! According to what I read, anything before 8/17/64 is a 64 1/2. Well, my car was built on 8/13/64. It has parts from a 64 and a 65. The thing that has me really scratching my head, it's a c-code 289! I think I've gotten some bad info, or mis-read it. Can anyone clear this up for me? Vin#5F07C260069, Tag: 65A,K,D6,13H,41,6,1
The ONLY thing that matters is the build date. Anything other than that is meaningless. Just like the 65 fuelie Vette that was ALL original but had the wrong this and that as inspected by a certified Vette inspector, things like generators, hoods, regulators etc. don't prove a car is not a 64 1/2...especially if it was built at the end of the model run. I had a 1966 SS-396/375 Chevelle that has a left-over 1965 396/425 Corvette engine. From the factory....numbers matching....so a hood or anything else does not matter.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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welcome to the bastard club i have a bastardized coupe aswell
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Thanks for all the help! I had a feeling the cut off datewas wrong,I read that they did not build a C-code in 64, but according to the cut off date of 8/17/64, I might have the only c-code 64 known toman!I guess its a Bastard 65 with left over 64 parts. [sm=smiley20.gif]
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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No, it's a real 65 with left over 64 parts. It's unique. Bastards run the government.
Jim
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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My 65' was made June 26, 1965 and it had a few 66' parts on it when I bought it in 1987. I have a feeling they were original to the car but there were 22 years there that I don't know what she was doin'. Some things you will just never know about a 40 year old car.



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