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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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I have a D code 4V 289 with a 9.0:1 compression, how is this different from the A codes compression of 10.0:1. Does the A code have different heads, I am confused? Can I get a simple definition of engine compression.
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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The compression ratio for your car was determined by the pistons. The 64 'D'code 4 barrel carb engine uses the pistons that were used in the 65 thru 68 'C' code 2 barrel carb engines. The 'A' code 289 had a different set giving them a 10.0:1 ratio.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Static compression ratio
CR = A/B
B= volume of combustion chamber when pistion is at top dead center
A= volume of cylinder at bottom dead center + B
Bis a bit tricky depending on the combustion chamber shape, thickness of the head gasket, and dish or dome of pistion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_ratio
http://e30m3performance.com/myths/mo...comp_ratio.htm
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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OK, I am still a little bit confused, are the pistons in the block or the head? If I buy new heads, they don't come with pistons do they.
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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The pistons are in the block and the valves are in the head. Go to this page and scroll down to the engine model
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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http://www.howstuffworks.com/engine1.htm


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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Cool, thanks for the links, so to improve the compression, I just need to get different pistons. I checked on Summit and they are only like $25.00 a piece, and I should do this when I put on new heads, cam, intake, carb etc.

Or should I just store my D code and get a larger crate motor, for a little bit more $.
Old Jun 11, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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Time to do some reading, as there's a wee bit more to it than buying parts and bolting them up.

Heads will also affect CR, as will block machining on a rebuild. I assume that you do want to be able to use readily available gasoline. The wrong combination of pistons/heads/cam/rockers will result in piston/valve contact. Old heads aren't very tolerant of unleaded fuel. Lots more.

Actually, you probably would be better off getting a crate motor, as all of the 'bugs' should have already been worked out. I'd stick with a 302/5.0 with a minimum overbore for now. I'm not that crazy about stroker motors in general, less so in an engine with such a short deck height and short rods as these.

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Your heads will fit and work well with higher compressionpistons as used in 65 and 66 289 engines with a 4 barrel carburetor. Boring your engine oversize will affect the compression ratio ina veryslight mannor. Getting a valve job if the heads come off is a good idea. Don't let other people spend your money.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: 66GTKFB

Getting a valve job if the heads come off is a good idea. Don't let other people spend your money.
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Agreed. And a 40 year old block might need a light deck cut too.

Anyway, a red flag goes up when an obviousnewcomer to engine building goes straight from asking where the pistons go to talking about new heads and a cam.

solid - don't take the above as insult in any way. We all started out at that same level of automotive knowledge.


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