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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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how would you go about telling the difference between an 8" and 9" rear end? I have tried looking up pictures, but I don't see any identifiers that stand out to me.

also, I had what I thought was a tranny problem, but it could bea rear end problem in my '65. I just drove a different '65 coupe auto where the trans. didn't clank as hard when I put it in drive or reverse as mine does. So, obvioulsy mine clunks pretty hard when putting into drive and reverse..but it also clunks pretty hard when I let off the gas, or give it gas. Any ideas on what to check first to diagnose? I have very minimal knowledge on rear ends. kthx.
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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One way is that the 8" center part is flat on top and bottom whereas the 9" is rounded. I think there's an id guide in the FAQ.
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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I had what I thought was a tranny problem, but it could bea rear end problem in my '65. I just drove a different '65 coupe auto where the trans. didn't clank as hard when I put it in drive or reverse as mine does. So, obvioulsy mine clunks pretty hard when putting into drive and reverse..but it also clunks pretty hard when I let off the gas, or give it gas. Any ideas on what to check first to diagnose? I have very minimal knowledge on rear ends. kthx.
order in which i would check:
u-joints (in the driveshaft)
pinion flange (where driveshaft meets rear axle)
Slip Yoke (where Driveshaft meets Transmission)
Backlash (gear mesh)(probably means incorrect gear setup or really worn out)
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Quick easy way to tell. The backside of an 8 is rounded whereas a 9" has a "dip". You'll know what I mean if you see it..
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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thanks guys....ok, for backlash, I jack it up, hold the wheels and turn the drive shaft backwards, right? How much is too much backlash?
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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from your description, what you have is too much backlash.
you turn the driveshaft one way till you meet some resistance and then turn it back the other way (car in neural). I think you'll find you have 1 -2" and you want not more than 1/4 - 1/2" IMO.

your diff is almost certain to be a 8"
I'll post a pic of the 9 in a sec
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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arrows show the raised section on the back of a 9, not present on an 8

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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Look at your U joints first, what you describe is classsic symptoms for worn out U joints. One easy to tell a 8 from an 9 is this, can you get a socket on all the nuts that remove the carrier. An 8" you can anda 9" will require the use of a wrench. For one if not two of the nuts. Some early 9" housings had a smooth back and look the same as a 8".
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Look at your U joints first, what you describe is classsic symptoms for worn out U joints. One easy to tell a 8 from an 9 is this, can you get a socket on all the nuts that remove the carrier. An 8" you can anda 9" will require the use of a wrench. For one if not two of the nuts. Some early 9" housings had a smooth back and look the same as a 8".
I never knew that...thanks Richard
Old Sep 4, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: 67 evil eleanor

Look at your U joints first, what you describe is classsic symptoms for worn out U joints. One easy to tell a 8 from an 9 is this, can you get a socket on all the nuts that remove the carrier. An 8" you can anda 9" will require the use of a wrench. For one if not two of the nuts. Some early 9" housings had a smooth back and look the same as a 8".
well, I thought it was an 8" until you said that....still pretty sure it is an 8", but if it isn't raining tomorrow, I will verify with a socket and/or wrench.

I replaced the u-joints because I thought that is what it was...so I don't think that is the problem unless I messed up the install. Assuming I do have too much backlash, how would I go about adjusting it to the correct amount?



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