well i was reading the previous post where gothand was talking about him buying a crate engine .. and i do suppose of believe he purchased a 302 .

why would he consider it more streetable ?

torque issues i assume ? as well as gas ?

some argue 351's arent worth it if your looking for a 350-400 hp range .. am i right ?

 

i wouldnt buy one from ford there way over priced for what you get id get a used block and build one up or get a block from world.

 

Right ... thats a given .

But he speaks of the 351 as if it were not as good as a 302 crate .

is there much of a difference between a preference built engine and a crate company engine ?

 

The 351 he pulled out was 20 years old. That's an old school build. The 302 crate motor is newer technology and much more efficient. That 302 he has now runs better and gets better fuel economy. I'm sure he can expand on this.
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First and foremost, the 351W had been sitting for over 10 years and didn't age well. At a minimum, it was going to require a complete teardown, hot tank and reassembly. Yes, it was a bit "older" technology, built in 1990, but it still had some pretty good parts ... '69 block, forged internals, aluminum Alan Root heads (about the first aluminum head available for the SBF, later re-branded the SVO J-302 head IIRC), custom grind Crower ROLLER cam with .547"/.539" lift, 280/288 duration (244/250 at .050) and 112* lobe separation. There was a lot of $$$ into that engine and I still got a bit over $1000 for it as is, not even turned over for more than 10 years.

While it ran like a bat out of hell and was a real stump puller, it was a bit much for my needs in my '65. For one thing, the solid lifters made a bit of a racket and did require periodic adjustment. Although it ran okay on the 91 octane that is available here, it was much happier on the higher octane stuff sold for $$$ at some of the specialty stations which seem to have disappeared. Lastly, it wanted to idle at about 1100± rpm and you'd practically pass out from the fumes if you stood behind it for too long (yes, it was professionally dynotuned by Jennings in the San Fernando Valley).

The Ford Racing 302 crate motor provides more power than I can use in a sub 3000# car, is constructed of all new parts by the same company that produces our cars and is pretty much complete right out of the box and ready to go. Whether it is a value is purely objective and is up to the individual. To me, $4100 for a brand new, roller block with waterpump and flywheel with a one-piece rear main seal (I have some history here) is an excellent buy. Yes, you may be able to get something built with a mixture of new and seasoned parts from a machine shop for less. If everything were as simple as price, we'd all be buying the generic cereal at the grocery store, Pabst instead of Guiness and Chevy instead of Ford.

Oh yeah, it was very difficult to put the power of the 351W I had to the ground. It dyno'd 394 ft-lb at the rear wheel at 3000 rpm. Maybe I'm getting old (38), but I also think the Magnaflows are too noisy for my liking so I'll likely be pulling the brand new mufflers out.

YMMV!!!!!!
Jeff

 

thanks alot for all that info .

 

I said 20 years old, I meant 10. My bad.
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You're closer to right than wrong. If I can do the math (I am a CPA) that's 17 years, should'a gone with your first answer.

 

well when you buy a classic your not really concerned about mpg, but you do want to be able to drive it around twon, i still stand with the 351. even though i have a 302.

 

[align=left]DOH! can I change my answer back!