which is better and why? ive heard the cleaveland was but i dont know why. also, i heard there were other rare enginesmade like the michigan or some other place. is this true?

 

For rebuilding for power, there is no question that the Cleveland has more options available, but more expensive as compared to the windsor.

 

like its just more compatible with performance parts or what? how differnt, architechture-wise are the cleveland and the windsor that the cleveland is noticibly better?

 

These days, there are many more performance parts available for the Windsor vs the Cleveland. That, plus the fact that the Windsor was in production so much longer then the Cleveland make the Windsor a popular choice today. That said, the reason the Cleveland has so much performance potential is the head design. It breathes much better in stock form then the Windsor head. The 2bbl head is better for street performance as the 4bbl heads like high rpm's. They're both good motors but if I was going to build a 351, I'd do a Cleveland. JMO.

 

Windsor is a small block. The Cleveland is an "intermediate" block. A tweener if you will. Not technically a small block, but not technically (but sometimes listed as) a big block. When Ford desinged the Cleveland (esp the 4bbl head version) they realized that you can make lotsa power if the heads breathe well. The 4bbl heads on a Cleveland were built to breathe.

The gas crunch and introduction of emissions laws killed development of the Cleveland. I think they were only made from like '71-'74. Then came the neutered 351M and 400M.

Be warned though. They can be hard to find parts for. And as was said, expensive.

 

Cheese and Rice! You beat me to it.....LOL!

 

i can tell u that depending on what year you have its possible to fit both in just about every year. i have a cleveand, and my friend has a winsor both are 67 coupes and i know a few people who have put them in 65s where the engine compartment is smaller, but it was a squeeze.

 

Good news for the C...edelbrock just announced it will be selling aluminum heads for it, a first.

 

the old clev..revs like crazy and it good for on the avg 1000 more rpms

 

For what you will pay for a hot Cleveland, you can get a stroker Windsor with more HP. I think the Windsor is the better bang for the buck. And it will fit into any year mustang whereas the Cleveland wont.

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