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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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well we got the tranny in and shifter through the floor ,, and most all the work under the car done ,, the z bar went in ok there was holesfor the rail pcs andso far wentgoodnow to the under dash stuff like the padels and ( spring ) anyone got any pointers on doing the large spring lol

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Yeah,Watch your Fingers!! Go to Mustang monthly Archives and search,guarantee you will find an article with pics!Good Luck!
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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If you're using a diaphragm style clutch, leave that spring out. It's actually an over-center assist spring for a factory long-style clutch. Diaphragm clutches don't require nearly as much pedal effort, so leaving the spring in will produce a 'snappy' clutch, and may also leave the clutch pedal stuck to the floor during high-rpm shifts (some diaphragm clutches have centrifugal weights that increase pressure with rpm).
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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I have a diaphragm setup and willwood hydro cylinder and release bearing. I would love to be able to loose the spring. Can I do that on my set up?
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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I'd think with the proper master/slave combo you wouldn't need it. Does the pedal feel really snappy, like it almost wants to fall to the floor after an inch or so? If so, you can remove the spring for a more linear pedal feel.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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don't know what a diaphragm style clutch is ,, we are using a normal clutch,, we installed the small spring down below that goes from the fork to z-bar but i will check out mustang monthly
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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I removed the spring on my T5 setup. I have a CenterForce DualFriction clutch, with a hydraulic clutch kit. After spending about 4 hours trying to install the freakin spring we finally got it. Then read that it wasn't necessary. I cut the thing out with dremel I was so pissed.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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i was doing some reading and i think you have to remove the padel bracket *** through the dash ?? is that right i see that the spring bracket is there also i guess it would be easery to install everything that way huhhh????
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Yes, you'll need to pop the gauge panel out to get to the pedal support and especially the spring. Not really a big deal.

OE long (aka 3-finger) style clutches have 3 thick metal fingers evenly spaced around the inside of the clutch cover. Newer diaphragm style clutcheshave many smaller fingers all around the inside of the cover which are actually part of a belleville spring. The belleville design of the diaphragm clutch requires much less pedal effort to actuate than the multiple heavy coil springs in the long style clutch cover, meaning that you don't need the under dash assist spring to help push the pedal to the floor.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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ok the one we have has several small fingers around the center ,, is that thenewer stayle ,, really all that i have seen is the ones that have sereral fingers 10 to 15 i would say maybe more ??? lol
ok i guess we will remove the dash migh be the best way

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