Engine questions for builders
ORIGINAL: TexasAxMan
It is a hydraulic cam, single springs. Pedastal (sp?) mount rockers. But, the heads have significant port work done by outward appearances. Like I said, I'm not searching for some HP figure.
All I am really asking is, is there a way to determine what cam is in it now, so I can change it if it does not meet the intended purpose. I can figure out the piston issue on my own, and thanks to CPRStreetMachines for the response.
SO, in lieu of revising my original question, let me rephrase. Is there a way to determine what cam your engine has in it?
It is a hydraulic cam, single springs. Pedastal (sp?) mount rockers. But, the heads have significant port work done by outward appearances. Like I said, I'm not searching for some HP figure.
All I am really asking is, is there a way to determine what cam is in it now, so I can change it if it does not meet the intended purpose. I can figure out the piston issue on my own, and thanks to CPRStreetMachines for the response.
SO, in lieu of revising my original question, let me rephrase. Is there a way to determine what cam your engine has in it?
ORIGINAL: dodgestang
As I indicated previously you can measure lift at the rocker and get a rough idea of the type of cam but it takes some pretty detailed measurements best done with some specialty tools I don't own so its not something I have done. However, single springs, hydro lifters, and a dual plane indicate to me you have a close to stock rebuild that if you are lucky would have a tiny bit larger than stock cam.
ORIGINAL: TexasAxMan
It is a hydraulic cam, single springs. Pedastal (sp?) mount rockers. But, the heads have significant port work done by outward appearances. Like I said, I'm not searching for some HP figure.
All I am really asking is, is there a way to determine what cam is in it now, so I can change it if it does not meet the intended purpose. I can figure out the piston issue on my own, and thanks to CPRStreetMachines for the response.
SO, in lieu of revising my original question, let me rephrase. Is there a way to determine what cam your engine has in it?
It is a hydraulic cam, single springs. Pedastal (sp?) mount rockers. But, the heads have significant port work done by outward appearances. Like I said, I'm not searching for some HP figure.
All I am really asking is, is there a way to determine what cam is in it now, so I can change it if it does not meet the intended purpose. I can figure out the piston issue on my own, and thanks to CPRStreetMachines for the response.
SO, in lieu of revising my original question, let me rephrase. Is there a way to determine what cam your engine has in it?
I answered 2 of your 4 questions the same as other posters. i didnt respond to the ones I didnt know the answers to.
YOU said you wanted 325+ in your first post. Then you said you dont care about the hp. Now you're still saying you might want to change the cam. To achieve what intended purpose?
This ain't my first rodeo, but yes, you can get 350 Hp out of stock heads. As a matter of fact, I never said they were stock.
I stand by my posts and I doubt anyone else here who has made the same mistakes I did (doing pretty much what you intimated in your first post)would disagree. All I was trying to do was discourage you from throwing good money after something that I believe would end in tears. But...whatever...its your money. I'll keep my opinions to myself[8D]
So, I guess the answer is that there is no part no. or other identifying markings on cams. It seems from my Chevy days that they did, but I could be mistaken on that. That's what I needed to know, not necessarily what I wanted to hear, but it helps.
I'm a long way from first firing of the engine, just wanted to know if what I have is going to suit my purpose, as stated in the original post.
I'm a long way from first firing of the engine, just wanted to know if what I have is going to suit my purpose, as stated in the original post.
For what is worth....the 65 coupe put down 180 at the back tire with a slightly warmer than stock rebuild on mildly ported heads and single springs....and the darn thing is still my favorite of all of them to drive out on the highway. (the fact that it's the only one with a 4 speed might have something to do with it) but it keeps up with the run of the mill 3 series just fine
ORIGINAL: TexasAxMan
So, I guess the answer is that there is no part no. or other identifying markings on cams. It seems from my Chevy days that they did, but I could be mistaken on that. That's what I needed to know, not necessarily what I wanted to hear, but it helps.
I'm a long way from first firing of the engine, just wanted to know if what I have is going to suit my purpose, as stated in the original post.
So, I guess the answer is that there is no part no. or other identifying markings on cams. It seems from my Chevy days that they did, but I could be mistaken on that. That's what I needed to know, not necessarily what I wanted to hear, but it helps.
I'm a long way from first firing of the engine, just wanted to know if what I have is going to suit my purpose, as stated in the original post.

(at least all the stock cams I've pulled out of my cleveland had 'em)
Thanks dodgestang, that is exactly the answer I was looking for, I just didn't tear in far enough I guess.
Aussie66Fastback, I'm sorry if I came off sounding like a horse's ***, I'm sometimes prone to do that.
Aussie66Fastback, I'm sorry if I came off sounding like a horse's ***, I'm sometimes prone to do that.
ORIGINAL: TexasAxMan
Thanks dodgestang, that is exactly the answer I was looking for, I just didn't tear in far enough I guess.
Thanks dodgestang, that is exactly the answer I was looking for, I just didn't tear in far enough I guess.

FWIW they were comp cams I pulled.
Some manufacturers put grind numbers for cams on them, but you'd have to pull the cam out to see it since it'd most likely be on the back side. Getting and honest 350hp out of stock 289 iron heads and having it streetable is asking a lot. As far as whether your engine is streetable, if you want to know the cam specs there are ways. You'd need a dial indicator with a magnetic mount base, bring the engine to TDC on a cylinder and set the dial indicator on one of the rocker ends(so you're taking either cam lift or valve lift measurements). Then put a degree wheel on the crank snout and 0 it. Just like you're degreeing a cam then slowly turn the engine over backwards until the valve seats(check the intake on the top of the exhaust stroke this way). Back it up a little ways after the valve has seated then go forward(to take up any timing chain slack). When the lifter comes up about .006" take a reading from the degree wheel, then take another at .050" then take the reading at max lift, then another at .050 and another at around .006 on the closing side of the cam. You then have your 5 main points for the intake(or exhaust if you do it), IVO, IVC, EVO, EVC and max lift. From that you can determine duration and duration at .050". It also gives you your intake/exhaust centerline. That'll give you an idea of the range the cam is designed for.
And BTW, with hydraulic lifters you want to at least prime the oiling system to pump the lifters up, but if you want to get accurate then you'd need light springs such as for claying pistons, or no springs at all.
And BTW, with hydraulic lifters you want to at least prime the oiling system to pump the lifters up, but if you want to get accurate then you'd need light springs such as for claying pistons, or no springs at all.
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